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Re: Career Advice

From: <Jared.Still_at_radisys.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:34:25 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.005DA342.20031217163425@fatcity.com>



Perl: Since you're working with Oracle, if you were to buy only one book, you might consider:
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/oracleperl

If you but 20 of them I can take my wife out to lunch.


Not a bad idea to have Learning Perl, Programming Perl, The Perl Cookbook and The Perl DBI.

Very few non-Oreilly books on Perl are worth contemplating.

All are available on CD.

Java:  Sun's Java course is pretty good.   "Thinking in Java" is highly recommended.

There are probably those with better recommendations for Java.


Jared



Viktor <stant_98@yahoo.com>
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Let's take this topic into a more concrete scenario. New boss, company reorg, cross-training is enforced and now DBA'S's are going to be split into development groups. Need to learn Perl(looking forward to it actually!!!) and Java. Books, web sites, docs - all these material is great. But what if  you're expected to learn fast and I can learn quickly, but still, do you guys have some advice on how can one "express" teach himself.
 
Managing expectation is one thing I need to talk with boss about. Surely I would not't  want to be overwhelmed with stuff at the beginning. But at the same time I am kinda excited about picking up on Java and Perl. The questions is what are the tricks and tips for learning on a fast track?
 
Thanks!
 
Viktor

Stephane Faroult <sfaroult@oriole.com>
wrote:

Believe somebody who first learned SQL back in 83, it's too late for
Java now. Run-of-the-mill skill. Any young grad will know it and will be
less expensive.
ERP would be a good bet, because people learn them at work, mostly. Now,
would a company change be justified just for that? Probably not. As you
said, you are hired for what you know, not what you want to learn. Grasp
opportunities, learn whatever looks to you useful - and fun.

My 0.02 EUR.

SF

ryan_oracle@cox.net wrote:
>
> learn java and object oriented programming. go to sun.com and start reading the java docs.
>
> go to www.bruceeckel.com and read his java book.
>
> do a search on any job sites. a ton more work for java than oracle. people who can do both are in demand.
> >
> > From: Mladen Gogala > > Date: 2003/12/17 Wed PM 01:49:25 EST
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: Re: Career Advice
> >
> > Have you ever considered a career in country music? Try getting "Stand By your man"
> > just right and the rest will come. You have to learn both kinds of music, country
> > and western. May Jake and Elwood be with you.
> >
> > On 12/17/2003 12:44:28 PM, Saira Somani-Mendelin wrote:
> > > As an applications analyst/junior dba, I feel I need to learn more but
> > > I'm not sure of the direction I should take, so I'm asking for advice.
> > >
> > > Should I become interested in Oracle Apps? Or should I learn another
> > > suite like SAP or Siebel or PeopleSoft? The difficulty is that my
> > > company does not use any of these. We use a smaller package by Tecsys
> > > called Eli! te and they don't have as many customers - or should I say, as
> > > many customers with deep pockets.
> > >
> > > I know I can get my hands on a working copy of SAP, what about the

> > > others? I believe you can purchase an evaluation copy of Apps from the
> > > Oracle Store. Has anyone actually tried to train themselves on any of
> > > these products? Has anyone installed Apps at home for testing?
> > >
> > > Sorry if this question has been presented on the list before.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Saira
> > >
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