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Re: New TPC benchmarks

From: Mogens Nørgaard <mln_at_miracleas.dk>
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:49:24 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.005D9FB7.20031215224924@fatcity.com>


Yes, both DB2, SQL Server and Oracle arrive in special editions for these benchmarks. Note also that no indexes are used - Oracle uses hash clusters, for instance. No indexes in sight. Just like certain large customers are running special versions of the Oracle RDBMS, by the way.

So it's all about benchmarks fighting benchmarkers, always on the lookout for a sponsor, and nobody caring anymore about their results. Traditional marketing just doesn't work anymore. It's over.

Mogens

Paul Drake wrote:

> what's really helpful about these, are the server tweaks made (if you
> deploy on win32).
>
> check out http://www.tpc.org/results/FDR/TPCC/dell_2650_261103_fdr.pdf
>
> Pg 170 - there's a list of all of the services that are
> disabled/stopped - 24 in all.
> Pg 224 - the section of the MS diagnostics report lists that provides
> a detail list of the services. lots of unneccesary "features".
>
> Pd
>
> */Paul Drake <discgolfdba_at_yahoo.com>/* wrote:
>
> Nuno,
>
> > The whole thing is an extravagant waste.
> I beg to differ.
> When I ask for 2 external storage units of 14 drives apiece (DAS),
> and they look at me like I obviously have no clue about their
> intentions of a 3 drive RAID something other than 10 config, a
> configuration that they can download just by showing them a link to
>
> http://www.tpc.org/results/FDR/TPCC/dell_2650_261103_fdr.pdf
>
> is most helpful.
>
> But a nice, fat, multipathed slice off of their SAN is fine by me
> too, just as long as I have enough internal storage to keep an
> entire hot backup set on disk, along with a member for each redo
> log, and a controlfile, just in case.
>
> Pd
>
>
>
> */Nuno Pinto do Souto <nsouto_at_optusnet.com.au>/* wrote:
>
> > Mogens Nørgaard wrote:
> > Today it's only a question of finding a sponsor for the
> benchmark.
> > Then
> > you can break any report.
> >
>
> It's not only today... It's been like that for the last
> 8 years or so. Basically: "Have $$$? Will win" is the
> entire philosophy of all this TPC crap. It's not worth
> the paper it's printed on. Bears no resemblance
> to reality whatsoever, no matter how much "extrapolation"
> is done to justify it.
> The whole thing is an extravagant waste.
>
> Cheers
> Nuno Souto
> nsouto_at_wizofoz2k.com.au
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