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Re: Re: 24 x 7 x 365

From: Tanel Poder <tanel.poder.003_at_mail.ee>
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:19:25 -0800
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Yep, I also think so. I'm currently developing a small prototype for this kind of transparent proxy, which I'll post here when it's stable...

Tanel.

> Tanel,
>  
> I think this is a good solution, provided the application can handle
> two phased commit protocol across both the databases, else there
> could be orphan records on one or both these databases.
>  
> Murali Tanel Poder <tanel.poder.003_at_mail.ee> wrote:
> When you want true 24x7 without compromises, then you have to step
> closer tothe client anyway.This means, you have two databases for
> example and your app servermultiplexes all transactions to both
> ones.This should be faster than sync standby or sync replication,
> because appserver can send requests to both databases in parallel,
> unlike withstandby/replication where database itself resends the
> requests to otherdatabases, making the "chain" of changes
> longer.Tanel.----- Original Message ----- To: "Multiple recipients of
> list ORACLE-L" Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 11:24 PM>>>>> Hi,>>
> Unfortunately I'm gonig to add the negative view, like several
> others> have...>> True 24x7x365 (good pick-up Pete on the 7 year
> thing) will!
> be
> limited by> much more than database and operating system
> availability. We just did a> major software upgrade last weekend and
> part of the upgrade involved the> conversion of 250+ million records
> in the database - that takes time no> matter what. Yes, with
> unlimited budget and time constraints we could get> the outage down
> to nothing but at the end of the day it's easier for the> business to
> manage an outage.>> Our system was offline for a total of about 10
> hours yet traffic drives on> our tollroad all the time so: The
> roadside is designed to backlog> transactions for several days, our
> system has capacity to catch upbacklogs> fairly fast (within a day we
> had caught up again), we have an alternative> front-end system that
> can backlog feeds, and finally we designed our> conversion process to
> do as much as possible before the outage.>> We are also on 8.1.7
> enterprise and!
> don't
> use OPS/RAC - instead we havethe> alternative processes in place to
> ensure the business can function.> Perhaps your company can consider
> a similar alternative? As others have> said - it can be VERY
> difficult to remove every possible outage and it can> be much easier
> to manage a small outage every few months.>> Regards,> Mark.>>>>>
> "Tracy Rahmlow"> !!!!!

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