how many people are actually OCMs? and those of you that are, has it helped you in getting work?
>
> From: "Richard Foote" <richard.foote_at_bigpond.com>
> Date: 2003/12/12 Fri AM 07:54:26 EST
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> Subject: Re: Who are certified Oracle Masters?
>
> Hi Robert,
>
> That's all very interesting.
>
> The various press releases at the time (e.g.
> http://www.dulcian.com/PRESS%20RELEASE_OCM.htm) all suggest that the "6 best
> Oracle experts in the world" were handed these prestigious awards. Even the
> TUSC website only makes mention of these awards being handed to Mr Niemiec.
>
> If he indeed actually took and passed the practical exam in person, and if
> obtaining OCM status is as prestigious as the marketing makes it out to be,
> then I would recommend Mr Niemiec perhaps promote his "hands-on" involvement
> a little more (rather than the handed hands-off bit) as this I'm sure all
> comes as news to many.
>
> It's actually a very brave thing to have done when you think about it. It's
> a little bit like being given a brand new car as a present and saying "oh no
> no, I want to prove I can drive it first". It's all great if you pass the
> driving test but if you were to fail, boy, would you look silly holding
> those car keys ;)
>
> Did he have any such reservations ?
>
> Cheers
>
> Richard
>
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>
> > As I recall Rich talking about it, he did indeed take the exam. It was not
> > just "handed" to him.
> >
> > Robert
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > Sent: 12/11/2003 3:59 PM
> >
> > you mean niemic didnt actually have to take the test? It was just handed
> > to
> > him? who is jeremiah wilton?
> > ----- Original Message -----
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> >
> >
> > > IIRC, Tanel did the OCM as well, but I suspect most of the others on
> > > your list aren't prepared to waste their time attending OCP exams and
> > > courses just so they can get the OCM. :)
> > >
> > > There were some honorary OCM's announced when the program first
> > started
> > > (OOW2002?). From memory, Rich Niemic and Jeremiah Wilton are the only
> > > names that spring to mind from that group.
> > >
> > > Pete
> > >
> > > "Controlling developers is like herding cats."
> > >
> > > Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook
> > >
> > > "Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that!"
> > >
> > > Bruce Pihlamae, long-term Oracle DBA
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > Mladen Gogala
> > > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 7:54 AM
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> > >
> > > I know only of Pete Sharman. Who are other Oracle Certified Masters on
> > > this group? I suspect Tanel to be one, as well as Steve Adams, Cary
> > > Millsap,
> > > Mogens Norgaard, Anjo Kolk, Wolfgang Breitling, Gaja V. and Kirti
> > > Deshpande.
> > > Am I correct?
> > >
> > > Mladen Gogala
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