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From: Stefan Jahnke <Stefan.Jahnke_at_bov.de>
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 00:59:39 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.005D6762.20031113005939@fatcity.com>


Ok. That's of course true, but I guess it depends on the scenario. With the truncate option, there is no chance to roll back the activity. If you use direct path load, I guess it makes more sense to opt for truncate.

Stefan

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Von: Yechiel Adar [mailto:adar76_at_inter.net.il] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. November 2003 18:24 An: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Betreff: Re: Looking for help.

There are two options to replace all data in the table: REPLACE and TRUNCATE which are equivalent to truncate and delete sql statements. If you have staging tables without RI or triggers then use truncate. Using delete just takes a lot longer and use a lot more resources.

We use TRUNCATE almost exclusively.

Yechiel Adar
Mehish
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To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 3:44 PM

> Hi
>
> We do something similiar, but instead of deleting the tables beforehand, I
> just use the SQL*LOADER REPLACE option. No such problems as described in
the
> original eMail occured so far. The platform is Oracle 9.2.0.3 on Win3k.
>
> Regards,
> Stefan
>
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> Von: Jonathan Gennick [mailto:jonathan_at_gennick.com]
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. November 2003 14:34
> An: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Betreff: Fwd: Looking for help.
>
>
> I don't usually forward my reader email to the list, but the
> question below strikes me as rather interesting. In this
> case, SQL*Loader appears to be causing all SQL statements
> that refer to the table being loaded to be invalidated. Is
> this normal behavior? Does anyone know why it might be the
> case?
>
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> Wednesday, November 12, 2003, 1:07:41 AM,
> kamyeelee_at_comcast.net (kamyeelee_at_comcast.net) wrote:
> Hi Jonathan,
>
> I was unable to find the answers from your book "SQL*Loader: The
Definitive
> Guide" and the web. I am running out of sources. I hope you can help me
with
> the following questions.
>
> We are using Oracle 9i sqlldr, direct path to load data from external
files
> into
> staging tables. After data is loaded, we invoked stored procedures to
> transform data and move them to the target tables. The steps are:
> 1. delete all entries from 20 staging tables
> 2. invoke "sqlldr userid=dbimpl/dbimpl control=<controlFile> direct=true"
to
> load data to all 20 staging tables
> 3. invoke stored procedures to transform data from the staging tables to
the
> final tables. Currently these stored procedures are standalone.
> 4. invoke stored procedures to remove out-of-date entries from the final
> tables.
>
> I monitor invalidations column in v$sqlarea. Every time
> after sqlldr is invoked for data loading (step 2), all the
> sql statements that reference the staging tables are
> invalidated, including "delete from <stageing_table>" sql
> statement. I setup a test and used a java program to loop
> steps 1-4 every ~2 minutes. There were no other activities
> in the database except data loading and transformation.
> After a couple days, I got the following error: ORA-04031:
> unable to allocate 4212 bytes of shared memory ("shared
> pool","unknown object","sga heap(1,0)","stat array mem")
>
> The questions are:
> 1. Do we need to delete entries in the staging table prior to loading.
Will
> sqlldr remove the entires in the staging table first prior to loading?
> 2. There are no changes in the stored procedures, how / why sqlldr would
> invalidate the sql statement in the stored procedures?
> 3. The error ORA-04031 in this case, is it due to shared memory
> fragmentation? I suspect that the culprint is invalidations. How do
> invalidations cause shared memory fragmentation?
>
> I would appreciate if you can send me some pointers or suggestions.
>
> Thanks,
> KamYee
>
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