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Re: This is just wrong

From: Tim Gorman <tim_at_sagelogix.com>
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 05:44:33 -0800


I doubt it too. I donıt see MAC as a serious server, and it would probably be a mistake for Apple to go in that direction...

However, I hope that Oracle releases a 10g ³developerıs release² for OS X, so I can keep up by having it on my laptop. What they did with 9.2 is just fine with me...

on 11/6/03 12:09 AM, Paul Drake at discgolfdba_at_yahoo.com wrote:

> Tim,
>  

>> > Oracle has even produced a "developer's release" of Oracle9.2 for Mac
>> > OS X, downloadable from OTN.
>  
> that was released in Sept 2002.
> releases of 8.1.6 and 8.1.7 were supposed to be released for production usage,
> according to articles floated by Bob Shrimpi. Those never happened.
> What do you think are the chances of a 9.2 production release for Mac OS X?
> Oracle doesn't even support FreeBSD. One can run the Linux release of Oracle
> Server with Linux compatibility loaded.
>  
> Do you really think that they would support Mac OS X?
>  
> In my opinion, no. Not last september, not this september, not next september.
> never.
> Who really wants to run the server software on a Tier 3 platform, anyways?
>  
> Paul
> 
> 
> 
> Tim Gorman <tim_at_sagelogix.com> wrote:

>> I "live" on a Mac laptop. I chose to do so because there are only three
>> possible alternatives for laptop (or PC) users:
>>
>> - Windows
>> - "anti-Windows" (i.e. Linux)
>> - the middle-ground (i.e. Mac)
>>
>> The Mac is mature (20 years) and has applications, such as Microsoft Office,
>> Netscape, etc. I have no quarrel with MS about their applications (they
>> only suck at operating systems) -- it is what they do best and I think it is
>> nonsense to learn a different word-processor other than Word, a different
>> spreadsheet other than Excel, a different presentation tool other than
>> PowerPoint. On Linux, you have no choice. On Mac, you get all those things
>> because MS has always had a soft spot for the Mac (let's hope it continues).
>>
>> Oracle has even produced a "developer's release" of Oracle9.2 for Mac OS X,
>> downloadable from OTN.
>>
>> Now, the folks at! Apple are nonetheless surprisingly arrogant about their
>> place in the world -- v10.2 of Mac OS X still leaves a bit to be desired
>> when you are trying to live in a world of Windows. C'mon folks: you have
>> only 3% of the worldwide market -- let's start acting like it! Nobody cares
>> that you have better technology longer -- you have to work with Windows, not
>> the other way around!
>>
>> Some vendors (i.e. Digital cameras, printer drivers, etc) simply refuse to
>> port their stuff to Mac OS X. If you are trying to use Oracle Apps R10.7
>> NCA or R11.0, you cannot use the Applet Viewer or the Jinitiator, though I
>> haven't had problems with the newer 11i versions. Most surprising of all,
>> X-Windows is a johnny-come-lately to Mac OS X; when I started with Mac
>> earlier this year, you had to jump through 20 hoops to get something
>> installed. Now, X-Darwin is an easy install.
>>
>> But the nicest thing is having UNIX (i.e. FreeBSD) underneath. Finally, 15
>> years afte! r I drooled over the AT&T 3B1 (i.e. the UNIX PC), I've got
>> UNIX-to-go and I'm not having to fight with Windows people for everything
>> about everything.
>>
>>
>>
>> on 11/4/03 7:44 PM, Mladen Gogala at mgogala_at_adelphia.net wrote:
>>
>>> > Jonathan, you're a very smart guy and a very nice one as well but I cannot
>>> > make sense of this clarification of yours. Would you care to explain it a
>>> bit?
>>> > What confuses me is that you agree that one version of Unix (Linux) is not
>>> > appropriate for a home user, but then, in the same message, recommend OS
>>> X,
>>> > which is essentially a version of BSD Unix. Was that a joke? Are you
>>> > moonlighting as an Apple salesman?
>>> > 
>>> > On 2003.11.04 20:29, Jonathan Gennick wrote:
>>>> >> Tuesday, November 4, 2003, 7:19:25 PM, Joe Testa (jtesta_at_dmc-it.com)
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >> JT> Redhat recommending windoze for desktop.
>>>> >> 
>>>> >> JT> http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104_2-5101690.html>>
>>>> >> I find that assessment reasonable. It's no slam against
>>>> >> Linux, just a recognition that for perhaps the vast majority
>>>> >> of non-business users (i.e., home users) that Windows is a
>>>> >> more appropriate choice. Actually, given the number of
>>>> >> support calls I get from "friends" running Windows, OS X
>>>> >> might actually be the *best* choice for such people.
>>>> >> 
>>>> >> Best regards,
>>>> >> 
>>>> >> Jonathan Gennick --- Brighten the corner where you are
>>>> >> http://Gennick.com * 906.387.1698 * mailto:jonathan@gennick.com
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