RE: Outsourcing's dirty secret

Ok, please take this offline or to an OT list.

Thanks,

Jared ( the list owner )

On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 07:44, hrishy wrote:
> Hi Frank
>
> why do you think i should be banned...:-)..everybody
> is entitled to his opinion...
>
> say i go on a consulting assignement to a company that
> hosts por sites should i reccommend him Oracle10g or
> mysql..Mysql right..but being a oracle DBA and to save
> my job i can always recommend oracel 10g..nothing
> wrong..
>
> :-)
>
>
>
> regards
> Hrishy
>
>
> --- Pettinato <frankp_at_cableaz.com> wrote: > This is
> totally inappropriate. You should be banned
> > from the list. The
> > reality is that companies only look at the bottom
> > line and not the long term
> > effects of hiring anyone who can spell Oracle right
> > on thier resume.
> >
> > Frank
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > hrishy
> > Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 6:19 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > Hi All
> >
> > DBA's all here hmm...well if i were the CFO i would
> > have been lookin for the fast=true parameter if i
> > were
> > bald i would have been looking for a pill or a cream
> > that would give me hairs overnight..the time of
> > instant nirvana has come :-)..software bpo call
> > centeres they are all same..today the jobs are being
> > moved to india becaz the CEO's see that they are
> > able
> > to save 10$ on paper. or maybe just becoz your
> > competitor is doin so..capital always moves in
> > serach
> > of labour thats the bottom line ..:-) i read
> > argentina
> > programmers are cheaper then indians well
> > hehehe..hehee ...:-)..argentians woman are they more
> > beautiful....the author in my opinion has provided a
> > skewewed version of outsourcing ..the real
> > competition
> > for india will come from ETHOPIA i beelive
> > ..provided
> > the ethopians start learning english...:-) and will
> > start working for food :-)
> >
> > as for us we americans we can come out with a dirty
> > trick like not sharing information on fear of
> > getting
> > sacked with indian programmers :-)
> >
> > regards
> > Hrishy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- "Loughmiller, Greg"
> > <Greg.Loughmiller_at_cingular.com> wrote: > not only
> > salries, but job opportunities as well:-)
> > >
> > > greg
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 3:39 PM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >
> > >
> > > But sure as hell does drive salaries down over
> > here.
> > >
> > > On 10/30/2003 03:04:24 PM, Jared.Still_at_radisys.com
> > > wrote:
> > > > The perception of outsourcing has been that you
> > > can send your work
> > > > offshore,
> > > > and get it done cheaper, with higher quality.
> > > >
> > > > I think that this article helps to dispel that
> > as
> > > a myth. It may or may
> > > > not be
> > > > less expensive, it may or may not be better.
> > > >
> > > > Jared
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Jamadagni, Rajendra"
> > > <Rajendra.Jamadagni_at_espn.com>
> > > > Sent by: ml-errors_at_fatcity.com
> > > > 10/30/2003 09:49 AM
> > > > Please respond to ORACLE-L
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To: Multiple recipients of list
> > > ORACLE-L
> > > <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > > > cc:
> > > > Subject: RE: Outsourcing's dirty
> > > secret
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What is also unfortunate that the company X
> > which
> > > outsourced its project
> > > > to India, didn't do its job right ... If you
> > just
> > > want the cheapest Rolex,
> > >
> > > > you can't complain about its quality later on. I
> > > am not saying this
> > > > couldn't have happened, whatever happened is
> > > unfortunate, but I am just
> > > > saying that the company didn't understand CYA
> > > sufficiently, it is just a
> > > > blame game now.
> > > >
> > > > C'mon ... I think that article is one side of
> > the
> > > coin.
> > > > Raj
> > > >
> > >
> >
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> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 11:59 AM
> > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > List - If a manager seems to be contemplating
> > > outsourcing, you might want
> > > > to
> > > > post this. Unless you work for an outsourcer.
> > ;-)
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://techupdate.zdnet.com/techupdate/stories/main/Hidden_Costs_of_IT_Outso
> > > urcing.html
> > > >
> > > > Dennis Williams
> > > > DBA
> > > > Lifetouch, Inc.
> > > > dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com
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