RE: Oracle pricing ain't going down

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ml-errors_at_fatcity.com [mailto:ml-errors_at_fatcity.com] On
> Behalf Of Mogens Nørgaard
> Sent: 27 October 2003 05:34
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: Re: Oracle pricing ain't going down
>
>
> You had everybody convinced by your speach down there in
> South Africa!

Not me. Quite. My arguments will be up at www.niall.litchfield.dial.pipex.com/sadebate.html shortly. Too much FUD for me.

> I
> think actually SQL Server SE is 1/3, not 2/3, of Oracle SE
> and 1/2 of EE
> as you state. DB2 is about the same as SQL Server. No idea
> about Sybase.

That is probably list price rather than actual price.

>
> I have this radical idea that Oracle should include RAC in SE at no
> extra price (I think that would spread the product fast :) ), and
> include all the other options at no extra price in EE. I
> always wondered
> how much extra revenue these options really generated compared to all
> the extra work required to convince people and manage
> separate options, etc.

Nice idea but I'm not sure. We generate instances when there is a new 'project' that needs a db server. Now technically we should probably add schemas to an instance but as

1. no-one knows if 3 people or 3000 will use this app and
2. what load will it place on the server

Sticking it on a new pizza-box compaq server which is SAN attached seems fine. If it turns out we had a good idea we will buy it proper hardware. Next time you see Julian ask him about Rob and buying servers. We write these boxes off aver 3 years. We generate at least 3 new db driven projects per year.

So now consider RAC then.In any one year we are likely to have to consider moving 4 projects onto a rac box. These currently have at least 4*2 processors. Thus we move from 4 SE licenses * 2 procs to at least 1 EE license * 8 procs + RAC etc. Then there is fail over, suddenly its data guard etc. Ummm attractive not. Std one? Well anyone here running a production database on a single CPU box is welcome to step forward.

> The OLAP thing, for instance, is included in SQL Server EE,
> but not in
> Oracle EE. But Oracle has other unique options (the security stuff,
> etc.) that would make it a good bargain then.
>
> I think you're right: Oracle is too expensive at the moment for most
> uses and users.

You were kind enough not to mention what happens when the MSDE engine gets into the OS in (say) 2005. I fear that move will kill Oracle corp.

Niall

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