RE: Oracle pricing ain't going down

I remember reading something about this a couple of years ago. Another Larry pipe-dream. That he would keep developing the Rdbms-kernel so that he didn't need the any op-systems.

If you think about it, the Rdbms is close to being it's own op-system. It provides a service on a machine performing reads&writes to disk and manages memory structures. It probably does not have that much farther to go to skip calls to any op-system.

Tom Mercadante
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And this is a good thing?

;)

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Mladen Gogala
Sent: 27 October 2003 14:24
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I believe that Red Hat would be much better acquisition target then PeopleSoft. First of all, Peoplesoft doesn't seem to like the idea, second, Peoplesoft is very expensive. Red Hat would be much cheaper and would help oracle branch into other areas, where they could bundle database in a "enterprise package" and, basically, become another Microsoft.

On 10/27/2003 08:44:33 AM, DENNIS WILLIAMS wrote:
> Mladen, Mogens - If Oracle were to slash prices, there are several
> factors
> to consider. First, what does that do to Oracle's bottom line? Would
> sales
> increase dramatically enough to keep overall revenue from falling? I
> think
> the stagnant economy over the last few years has been tough on
> everyone and
> there aren't a lot of extra dollars to be found.
> Second, how would Microsoft and IBM react? Years ago, Oracle's
> main
> competitors were Sybase and Informix, database companies like Oracle.
> Now
> the main competitors are Microsoft and IBM, where database revenues
> are a
> minor portion of their revenues, at least that is my impression.
> Maybe
> not a
> smart idea to start a price war with someone that is not very
> dependent on
> database revenues.
>
> Dennis Williams
> DBA
> Lifetouch, Inc.
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>
>
> On 2003.10.27 00:34, Mogens Nørgaard wrote:
>
> > I have this radical idea that Oracle should include RAC in SE at no
> extra
>
> > price (I think that would spread the product fast :) ),
>
> That would, quite likely, be the end of RAC. RAC is a great tool for
> those
> who
> need it, but it's far too complex for the "general public", if such
> creature
>
> exists. Mass deployment of RAC would be likely to overextend support
> and
> give
> the product itself a bad rap and cause a huge controversy which would
> probably
> result in a significant product deterioration. That would be shame,
> because
>
> clustered databases can be extremely useful in the environments that
> need
> them. Having a bunch of PHB types trying to do "10 Teraflops on my
> database"
>
> would probably result in a disaster for the product itself.
>
> In other words, if oracle is getting slammed by the competition, they
> should
>
> cut prices across the board and not get creative with the options. I
> believe
>
> that the ultra cheap version for $150/seat is a step in the right
> direction.
> --
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