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Re: Transportable tablespaces -- yes in 10g ?

From: Tanel Poder <tanel.poder.003_at_mail.ee>
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:44:24 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.005D46F9.20031026074424@fatcity.com>


Hi!

Not only file headers are affected by big-little endian problem AFAIK, whole contents of files themselves are as well (multibyte char data for example). But in 10g you need RMAN to convert files from one endian format to another.

Tanel.

  Hmm.

  Quoting Page 2 of http://otn.oracle.com/products/database/oracle10g/pdf/OW_General_OracleDatabase10G_Revolution_10R1_081903.pdf

  "To assist in migrating to Enterprise Grid Computing, Oracle Database 10g enables very high-speed movement of data   from one database to another across platforms and database versions. For highest performance, transportable   tablespaces move data at the datafile level for fast "plug-and-play". Transportable tablespaces can now operate across   platforms. Among other things, this allows databases to be migrated to a new platform at the speed of file transfer."

  Hemant
  At 11:49 AM 22-10-03 -0800, you wrote:

    Rachel is in fact correct. See page 4 of the Self Managing Database paper     presented at OracleWorld
    (https://www.oracleworld2003.com/published/40090/40090.doc).

    Cloning from one OS to another simply doesn't work because the file header     formats are different between the different OS's. You can't just copy a     datafile from Linux to Solaris, for example, and expect to read it.

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    -----Original Message-----
    Henry Poras
    Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 2:10 AM     To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

    I don't see how this would work. You still have to move the physical data     file to the new machine. What makes a transportable tablespace trasportable     is that you notify the data dictionary of the move.

    If this works, couldn't you just clone from one OS to another by copying dbf     files? Thinking out loud here, a clone would include a few things not in     transportable tablespaces: redo logs, control files, rbs tspace, system     tspace. Control files can be rebuilt, redo logs aren't necessary with a     clean shutdown (you can recreate the shell. Data doesn't matter). Would the     physical structure of SYSTEM and RBS be that different??? Hmmm...

    Any thoughts?

    Henry

    -----Original Message-----
    Rachel Carmichael
    Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 10:49 AM     To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

    I have heard rumors that the 10g tweak on transportable is to allow you to     move cross-platform. Rumors only, I have NO inside information!


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