RE: CBO, RBO and will v5 ever really go away?

38 is my age, Mladen is 42

Stephane

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Bellow, Bambi
Sent: 20 octobre, 2003 13:04
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Let's do the time warp again! 2003-1961=42... But, I liked 1999 better... just a jump to the left...

One thing about living in the past...
The rent sure is cheaper.

Bambi (feeling that 38 is a spry young thang) -----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 11:44 AM
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Is 38 that old ???

Stephane

-----Original Message-----
Mladen Gogala
Sent: 17 octobre, 2003 18:00
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Ah, another one who can claim experience. According to one of the previous post it's a genuine gold mine these days. Being born in the Jurassic (1961) has its advantages, but I have yet to find them.
On 10/17/2003 05:29:31 PM, Stephane Paquette wrote:
> And also SQL*Loader will be rename to ODL (Oracle Data Loader)
>
> Stephane
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Mladen Gogala
> Sent: 17 octobre, 2003 17:19
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>
>
> Bambi, Oracle 5.1.22 was an exceptionally stable version of oracle,
> with very few parameters (names were "TABLES","INDEXES" and alike)
> and, as such will forever be committed to our memory.
> Furthermore, RBO is used in the data dictionary, just like the
> datatype
> LONG which has also, allegedly, been desupported but someone forgot
> to
> tell that to developers. There are things from V5.1.22 that I'm
> missing
> even today. There used to be something called "rpf/rpt" which was a
> very good thing for writing quick command line reports without huge
> and
> buggy gooey interface. I started learning the only other language
> that
> has formats and page handling and is not COBOL when rpt/rpf was taken
> away in 7.1 (your guess is correct, it's perl). In short, Oracle 5
> will
> never go away. I here that in version 11, SQL*Plus will be renamed to
> UFI (= User Friendly Interface) and there will be tools for
> generating
> simple forms called IAP, IAG and IAD...
> On 10/17/2003 04:54:25 PM, "Bellow, Bambi" wrote:
> > Friends --
> >
> > I just got back from a week of benchmarking and one of the "issues"
> > that
> > came out of it was, due to some rather, um, interesting, coding
> > techniques,
> > running schema level statistics both wrecked performance *and*
> > produced
> > Oracle Bug 2954921. So we had to remove the statistics before
> running
> > additional tests. Of course, RBO is being desupported soon, so we
> > really
> > ought to modify things. But, this brings up another issue. See,
> > Oracle
> > says, and here I am paraphrasing, of course, that...
> >
> > RBO is going to die. We're not supporting it anymore. Nope. Once
> > you get
> > off of 9.2, that's it. Finito. Hasta la vista, Ba-bee. Well, no,
> > it's not
> > really going away. YET. It will still be behind the scenes for
> > awhile. But
> > sooner or later, it's going to die. You've been warned. This
> isn't
> > going
> > to be like Forms2.3. No. We're serious this time. We put in all
> > these
> > great features that y'all aren't using because your code is
> dependent
> > on RBO
> > and RBO can't use these features and that sucks because we really
> > like
> > these
> > features. Now, we figure that a slim minority of people... maybe
> > 20%... are
> > still using RBO. 20%. Barely noticeable. (dinosaurs, grumble,
> > grumble)
> > Well, we're taking it away. We're going to drag you into the new
> > millenium
> > and you're going to use CBO. And you're going to like it. We'll
> > leave RBO
> > in there for awhile, but one day you'll wake up and it will be
> gone.
> > Gone,
> > I tell you, GONE! Just you wait. 5, 10 years from now, RBO will
> be
> > a
> > mere
> > a memory. Just like Forms2.3. Oh, and that "select * from tab;"
> > that
> > you're doing every once in awhile to see if it still works, you
> just
> > wait,
> > someday *someday* we're going to take *that* away too. And you're
> > just
> > going to have to live with it. HAhahahaha!
> >
> > So, what do you think? Will v5 ever really go away? And when will
> > RBO just
> > stop working?
> >
> > Bambi.
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