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Re: RE: anyone have opinions on the future of the 'grid'?

From: <rgaffuri_at_cox.net>
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 07:04:28 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.005D3C02.20031020070428@fatcity.com>


the big question is how useful will it be in 10g. Will anyone want to use it? I think I saw a post somewhere that says wait until oracle version 12 before anyone uses it.
>
> From: "Mercadante, Thomas F" <NDATFM_at_labor.state.ny.us>
> Date: 2003/10/20 Mon AM 10:44:25 EDT
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> Subject: RE: anyone have opinions on the future of the 'grid'?
>
> Dennis,
>
> I guess this is the crux of my question. My impression was that it was
> *not* just another implementation/release of OPS/RAC, that it was indeed
> something brand new. I guess I need to wait and see what it actually does.
>
> Tom Mercadante
> Oracle Certified Professional
>
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>
> Tom
> I would suspect that you are correct. I suppose we won't know until the
> 10g manuals are released. I do understand that parallel server was pretty
> much rewritten to create RAC. However, I would argue that what you see as an
> irritation is part of Oracle's marketing success. By changing the name of a
> feature, one can subtly change how it is perceived. How much does it cost to
> add an "i" or a "g" to a product's name?
>
> Dennis Williams
> DBA
> Lifetouch, Inc.
> dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
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>
> If this is true, then what is the difference between RAC (formerly Oracle
> Parallel Server) and Grid computing? Is this just another fine example of
> Oracle taking an existing product and renaming it yet again? they *like*
> doing this.
>
> Tom Mercadante
> Oracle Certified Professional
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:35 PM
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>
>
> Actually Dennis is quite correct. Part of the architectural framework is
> that you treat disk like a service. All disk storage is sharable across the
> enterprise grid you configure. If you have multiple grids in place, you
> would have multiple disk architecture frameworks in place. Alternately, you
> could share the disk architectures to create a common, scalable grid.
>
> Unfortunately, Oracle has been very lax in discussing the financial
> requirements for the grid. Forget Oracle pricing folks --> think more
> about the cost to reconfigure your entire data center.
>
> Thank You
>
> Stephen P. Karniotis
> Technical Alliance Manager
> Compuware Corporation
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> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 2:41 PM
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> Subject: RE: anyone have opinions on the future of the 'grid'?
>
> But that would require Oracle software to be installed on all the grids,
> don't you think? I'm really curious how they are going to pull this off.
>
> Tom Mercadante
> Oracle Certified Professional
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 6:30 PM
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>
>
> I think the assumption must be that all the computers on the grid are
> attached to a SAN. Does that seem reasonable?
>
> Dennis Williams
> DBA
> Lifetouch, Inc.
> dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 5:04 PM
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>
> For database type stuff, one must wonder how the data itself can be handled
> by CPU resources scattered hither and yon. The answer comes from the fairly
> recent knowledge that, in our universe, every particle has a matching
> particle; and changing one of the particles results in a change in the other
> particle. Well, the solution to trying to shove data all over the grid
> becomes obvious: One need only establish central management of the matching
> particles that make up the CPU and memory of all the computers involved.
> Initially, this would seem to be a daunting task ... until we recall that
> Larry is God.
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