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RE: anyone have opinions on the future of the 'grid'?

From: DENNIS WILLIAMS <DWILLIAMS_at_LIFETOUCH.COM>
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 06:29:26 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.005D3BF9.20031020062926@fatcity.com>


Tom

   I would suspect that you are correct. I suppose we won't know until the 10g manuals are released. I do understand that parallel server was pretty much rewritten to create RAC. However, I would argue that what you see as an irritation is part of Oracle's marketing success. By changing the name of a feature, one can subtly change how it is perceived. How much does it cost to add an "i" or a "g" to a product's name?

Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 7:54 AM
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If this is true, then what is the difference between RAC (formerly Oracle Parallel Server) and Grid computing? Is this just another fine example of Oracle taking an existing product and renaming it yet again? they *like* doing this.

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional

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Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:35 PM
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Actually Dennis is quite correct. Part of the architectural framework is that you treat disk like a service. All disk storage is sharable across the enterprise grid you configure. If you have multiple grids in place, you would have multiple disk architecture frameworks in place. Alternately, you could share the disk architectures to create a common, scalable grid.

Unfortunately, Oracle has been very lax in discussing the financial requirements for the grid. Forget Oracle pricing folks --> think more about the cost to reconfigure your entire data center.

Thank You

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Sent:	Friday, October 17, 2003 2:41 PM
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Subject:	RE: anyone have opinions on the future of the 'grid'?

But that would require Oracle software to be installed on all the grids, don't you think? I'm really curious how they are going to pull this off.

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional

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Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 6:30 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

I think the assumption must be that all the computers on the grid are attached to a SAN. Does that seem reasonable?

Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com

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Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 5:04 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

For database type stuff, one must wonder how the data itself can be handled by CPU resources scattered hither and yon. The answer comes from the fairly recent knowledge that, in our universe, every particle has a matching particle; and changing one of the particles results in a change in the other particle. Well, the solution to trying to shove data all over the grid becomes obvious: One need only establish central management of the matching particles that make up the CPU and memory of all the computers involved. Initially, this would seem to be a daunting task ... until we recall that Larry is God.
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