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Offshore impacts are killers on rates these days... However, It is my
feeling that this will be self correcting in about 2 years when everything
is totally screwed up, and mark my words, things will be. I've seen way to
many offshore projects fail. Big projects will be way over budget, way
behind schedule and perform like grandma moses. An offshore support model
might work, but an offshore development model often fails (but not always).
Companies will come begging for real DBA's, LOCAL DBA's and developers, to save them from themselves and the really bad, cheap, decision they made to offshore.
The old addage is so true, "You can pay me now, or you can pay me later"... and brother, it's going to be really expensive later.
Just gotta believe,
Robert
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Sent: 10/3/2003 11:59 AM
This is a difficult question that I've had to face more than I would have liked in the past 2 years. The way to do it is to mark your prices down and say that comparing bang for the buck, you've got a bigger bang... and maybe they can squeeze out a better buck... and maybe they can't... but at least you can compete with people with little or no experience... OH, and all those phone calls you get from recruiters... return them all... every last one of them... and make friends with them... tell them you're an expensive commodity, but if they hear of anything you're always interested in looking around... because it is much better to leave on your own terms and go job to job than to let the market forces do their bit and be sitting between jobs for weeks and months, then settling for money you'd prefer not to settle for...
HTH,
Bambi.
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Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 11:40 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
That only works up to the point where they are willing to pay. It's sad, but you can STILL get a job with the OCP letters after your name, regardless of what you can or can't do. The idea is that they are paying you bottom line because you have no experience... but being able to pass a test means that you are trainable.
If you can't get through the screeners that say... oh, you have X amount of qualifications... that prices you out of our range in these hard times, how can you market? Honestly, this is more than just rhetoric... HOW can you market yourself when you look bad to the bottom line?
April Wells
Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA
Corporate Systems
Amarillo Texas
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Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 11:14 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Mladen,
> Hard times present problems because people do > not want to pay for a competent DBA but frequently hire a shaman or a > witch doctor who "improves" on the system based on snake oil type > techniques. If I cannot get more money then some bozo after a
If you know you're better than the bozo and that you can give people
more
value for their money then I think this is a marketing problem more than
anything else. It's up to you to prove to the buyer (or your boss) that
you
can do the work better. Quantify your expected results. Chapter 4 has
an
excellent discussion on this.
Gudmundur
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