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RE: How to keep "root" out?

From: Jared Still <jkstill_at_cybcon.com>
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 07:34:28 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.005CDFBF.20030829073428@fatcity.com>

Oops, so right.

The author of the SANS book is Pete Finnigan.

Jared

On Fri, 2003-08-29 at 00:49, Pete Sharman wrote:
> Much as I would like to claim credit, that's the wrong Pete you have
> there. :)
>
>
> Pete
>
> "Controlling developers is like herding cats."
> Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook
>
> "Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that!"
> Bruce Pihlamae, long term Oracle DBA.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Jared Still
> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 11:14 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> The security model of Oracle on both unix and Windows
> precludes any ability to prevent access to the database
> by a knowledgeable user with root or admin access.
>
> Pete Sharman could no doubt go into some detail here.
>
> I bought his security book, I'll check it out when I get to work.
>
> Could be there's something I've overlooked. :)
>
> Jared
>
> On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 09:29, DENNIS WILLIAMS wrote:
> > Walter
> > You may be able to approach this from a security aspect. You could
> > discuss with your management whether it is a good idea for the system
> > administrators to be in a database. Depending on the security or SLA
> > requirements of the database, you may have some leverage there.
> >
> >
> >
> > Dennis Williams
> > DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
> > Lifetouch, Inc.
> > dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 11:10 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > Well, first of all, root should not be in your dba group...
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 8:34 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > Just for grins, I'll ask this question... Is there any way to keep the
>
> > Unix "root" user from logging into the database (i.e. connect internal
>
> > or / as sysdba)? Currently using 8.1.7.4 on Solaris 8 here.
> >
> > We have a couple people in our Unix admin group that feel the need to
> > "help" by writing their own DB monitoring scripts. Of course, they
> > don't know what they're talking about. They do not have formal logins
> > for the database, but since they are root users they are connecting
> > via "connect internal". This is not only counterproductive but
> > actually a potential security issue--just because someone has root
> > doesn't necessarily entitle them to see the data in the database. What
>
> > if it is a payroll database?
> >
> > So, I'm curious, is there any way to prevent access via "connect
> > internal" or "/ as sysdba"?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > W
> >
> > --
> > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net
> > --
> > Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS
> > INET: DWILLIAMS_at_LIFETOUCH.COM
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