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RE: Nature of Oracle-l has changed

From: Boivin, Patrice J <BoivinP_at_mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 04:11:28 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.005CD767.20030827041128@fatcity.com>


I think there is a balance to be struck there...

Being responsible means treating the employer well if it's not that bad a place to work; but it would be irresponsible to remain in an abusive work place.

When my wife was a library technician, one day the manager of a subcontracting company told the employees that someone was coming to ask employees questions to see if his firm was treating them well.

"Tell them like it is," he said.

So my wife did.

Later (once the interviews were over) my wife was blasted in front of the other employees during a staff meeting for describing her working conditions. She basically told the interviewer that she was doing the work of two people, that they often didn't have the resources they needed to get their job done properly.

That same morning, after the staff meeting, she got a phone call from a librarian in a public school, who was looking for a library technician... My wife said "give me two weeks and I can be there." She then went to see her manager, who offered her $1000 on the spot to keep her. That made her even angrier: She told him that it was too little too late, if he treated his employees fairly from the very beginning, she wouldn't be leaving.

She left.

Later she learned that to replace her, they hired THREE people, not two.

The subcontracting firm therefore had to pay for three employees instead of one. Mind you the manager could then say he was managing x+2 employees, not x. A good career move for him? Look, his firm grew.

Patrice.

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[mailto:David.Schmoldt_at_gazettecommunications.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 10:04 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

I think a lot of IT people "abused" the situation during the boom days. Company loyalty meant nothing ... we'll go wherever the biggest paychecks are. Don't stay anywhere too long. that's for losers. Change jobs if we felt the least bit abused and unappreciated. That'll teach them to screw with me! In general a holier-than-thou attitude. The times allowed us to do that.

But it also means a lot of non-IT people developed an opinion of IT folk as not being team players, only out for themselves, not committed to the company, etc.

So when the chance comes to cut back, where are you going to look? :-)

Dave
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