Re: Nature of Oracle-l has changed

Here's a perfect example of an email that should never have been sent.

Sigh... I'll learn one of these days.

This does not characterize the people I work for, as they're a pretty good bunch and actually do understand technology.

It's more of a generalized rant fueled by past experiences.

Should have hit 'delete' on this one instead of 'send'.

Jared

On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 11:19, Jared Still wrote:
> Mladen,
>
> My version of the explanation of this goes back to childhood.
>
> When you were in school, just which crowd were those execs in?
>
> The 'in' crowd, the jocks, the party hounds.
>
> If like me, you were one of the 'eggheads', you didn't fit
> in so well with their clique, and maybe you still don't.
>
> When in school, I was told I would be more popular if I
> "wasn't so smart". I was even told that once as an adult.
>
> After pondering that for a bit, I decided they could all
> bite the green weenie if they didn't like it.
>
> This is probably how I earned my Hawkeye Pierce like cynicism,
> which I do work hard at keeping in check, lest it cause me
> more problems with the former 'in' folk that I now work for.
>
> 'They' don't like it when people are smarter than they are,
> and understand things they don't understand, and can't hope
> to understand.
>
> Hmm, this is getting a but cynical, so I guess I'll stop
> before I provide too much fodder for an HR type that has
> finally learned how to use google.
>
> Jared
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 17:19, Mladen Gogala wrote:
> >
> > On 2003.08.23 18:34, Tim Gorman wrote:
> >
> > > Six years ago, a CIO commented to me, waving down a corridor which had
> > > offices full of developers, "If I had my way, I'd get rid of all of them and
> > > replace them with lawyers. We'd buy applications instead of building them
> > > and then sue the vendors." My response was something along the lines of "if
> > > you think developers are expensive, go price some lawyers", but it certainly
> > > bounced off him. At the time, I took it as just another colorful comment
> > > from a colorful guy. But he was dead serious, along with his CIO/CFO
> > > brethren, and the passing of Y2K and the dot-com bubble pop has expedited
> > > his prediction...
> >
> > I always wondered where does this prejudice against us, computer geeks (my
> > apologies to anyone offended by that expression, but I'm a hard core computer
> > geek) comes from? I must say that this prejudice is very hard to understand.
> > IT people are very well educated, very hard working, regularly willing to
> > work long hours and sacrifice their weekends for the benefit of the company.
> > I found that very same attitude against the "darned geeks" at several
> > executives and managers of several companies I worked for. Even if lawyers
> > are much more expensive the programmers, system and database administrators,
> > application designers, they are still very willing to make the switch.
> > I'm not quite sure why are we so hated? Why would anyone want to kill
> > a nice and seet little wabbit?
> >
> > --
> > Mladen Gogala
> > Oracle DBA
> > --
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