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RE: SGA

From: Naveen Nahata <naveen_nahata_at_mindtree.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 03:09:23 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.005CB831.20030819030923@fatcity.com>


Ya exactly. I had a brain fart.

Got to improve my basic arithmetic :-)

Regards
Naveen

>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG) [mailto:mike.hately_at_nedl.co.uk]
>>>Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 3:19 PM
>>>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>>>Subject: RE: SGA
>>>
>>>
>>>No, time waited is in 100ths of a second so you have divide
>>>to get the
>>>number of seconds.
>>>
>>>regards,
>>>Mike Hately
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Sent: 19 August 2003 07:04
>>>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>>>
>>>
>>>Shouldn't time_waited/100 be time_waited*100?
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>Naveen
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 11:19 PM
>>>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Mitchell,
>>>
>>>Which portion of the statspack report suggests increasing
>>>the cache size?
>>>
>>>Maybe you could post that portion here.
>>>
>>>The cause for poor performance needs to be located and corrected.
>>>
>>>What are the user complaints specifically?
>>>
>>>Have you checked to see where your system is spending its time?
>>>
>>>This query may prove helpful in that regard:
>>>
>>>
>>>col event format a35 head 'EVENT NAME'
>>>col total_waits format 999,999,999 head "TOTAL|WAITS"
>>>col total_timeouts format 999,999,999 head "TOTAL|TIMEOUTS"
>>>col time_waited format 999,999,999 head "TIME|WAITED|SECONDS"
>>>col average_wait format 99999 head "AVG|WAIT|100ths"
>>>
>>>set line 150
>>>set trimspool on
>>>
>>>select
>>> event,
>>> total_waits,
>>> total_timeouts,
>>> time_waited/100 time_waited,
>>> average_wait
>>>from v$system_event
>>>order by time_waited
>>>/
>>>
>>>
>>>ttitle off
>>>
>>>Jared
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mitchell <mitchell.lee_at_rogers.com>
>>>Sent by: ml-errors_at_fatcity.com
>>>
>>>
>>> 08/15/2003 09:24 AM
>>> Please respond to ORACLE-L
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>>><ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>>> cc:
>>> Subject: Re: SGA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Hi Jared
>>>
>>>I have reset to previous value and restarted the database
>>>anyway. Since I
>>>have 8G Memory and I may set SGA more than 3G. Actually I
>>>did at our AIX
>>>SP that set SGA total up to 5G of 8G memory.
>>>
>>>Anyway I found a solution on metalink ( Note 115753.1 and
>>>1028623.6. ) to
>>>set SGA to higher. You may be interest to read it.
>>>
>>>You are right it is best to find a root cause of poor
>>>performance. The
>>>reason I want to increases db buffer is our customer
>>>complain slow on our
>>>database and Statpack report suggest to increase it as well
>>>
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>Mitchell
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>To: <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>>>Cc: <mitchell.lee_at_rogers.com>
>>>Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 10:42 AM
>>>
>>>
>>>> Was a low cache hit ratio the only 'problem'?
>>>>
>>>> Were jobs taking longer than normal?
>>>>
>>>> Were users complaining of a slow system?
>>>>
>>>> Did your average response time shoot up dramatically?
>>>>
>>>> I'm afraid you may have succumbed to the dreaded disease,
>>>> CTD, or Compulsive Tuning Disorder.
>>>>
>>>> This is the urge to tweak database parameters due to some
>>>> arbitrary threshold. even though everything seems to be
>>>> working fine.
>>>>
>>>> It isn't your fault, as a number of publications in the
>>>> past, including Oracle's, have taught that having a block
>>>> cache hit ratio, or BCHR, lower than 90 or 95% meant that
>>>> your system was performing poorly.
>>>>
>>>> The first thing to do is set your db_block_buffers size
>>>> back to a value that allows you to start the database.
>>>>
>>>> Then head on over to http://www.hotsos.com and register
>>>> for the site. Click on 'Knowledge On-Line' at the top
>>>> of the page, and get the paper "Why 99% Database Buffer
>>>> Cache Hit Ratio is NOT Ok".
>>>>
>>>> There are other useful papers there as well, and indeed
>>>> many other sites where you can find useful information
>>>> about BCHR. This will get you started.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, someone (Connor McDonald I think) wrote a nice
>>>> utility that will increase your BCHR for you, but I don't
>>>> think you want to use it in production. :) It's chief
>>>> purpose is to underscore the futility of trying to tune
>>>> via the block cache hit ratio.
>>>>
>>>> HTH
>>>>
>>>> Jared
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 16:19, Mitchell wrote:
>>>> > Hi DBAs
>>>> >
>>>> > We have Sun Sparc system (Sun Fire 880) with 8G memeory.
>>> We has setting
>>>> > /etc/system to the max and data buffer catch 1000m and
>>>total SGA 1745MB
>>>on
>>>> > our . Oracle 8.1.7.3.0 Server. Since Dat Buffer
>>>Cache hit ration
>>>> > lower then 50% for last a few days, So We decide to
>>>increase another
>>>400MB
>>>> > to DB buffer. We faile to restart instance then, reside
>>>to 1200M, still
>>>> > failed. I have no clue at all for why. (I have checked
>>>the Metalink, no
>>>> > solution but redece SGA size). Anybody has any idea?
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks in advance.
>>>> >
>>>> > Mitchell
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
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