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RE: Re: tuning question when you have a 3GL application

From: Cary Millsap <cary.millsap_at_hotsos.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 20:29:24 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.005CB677.20030818202924@fatcity.com>


Then you have a political problem, not a technical one.

This is plenty common. In my opinion, you'll aggravate yourself to death before you'll successfully solve a political problem with a technical solution.

I have total faith in the technical solution that Dan suggested, but you won't be able to implement it until you fix the real problem.  

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-----Original Message-----
rgaffuri_at_cox.net
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:29 PM
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all i usually get is 'the application is slow'

i cant get more out of them than that. its in acceptance testing so i often get that from the customer. they are offsite and i dont have direct contact with them.

so i cant run traces on individual sessions. Further when the database runs slow they stop what they are doing. So it makes it harder. Im not that familiar with the v$wait and v$statistics views. I was hoping there are some queries so i can gather my own stats.
>
> From: Daniel Fink <Daniel.Fink_at_Sun.COM>
> Date: 2003/08/18 Mon PM 03:44:25 EDT
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> Subject: Re: tuning question when you have a 3GL application
>
> 10046, and only 10046. There are many ways to set this event, even in
another session. It is the method for identifying the exact
> problem. Statspack and queries on v$ views have their own shortcomings
that make them inefficient for use in identifying specific
> problems.
>
> Get the SE team to identify what is slow, when it is slow. If they can
repeat it, run a test with 10046 enabled. That WILL identify
> the cause of the response time degradation.
>
> Daniel Fink
>
> rgaffuri_at_cox.net wrote:
> >
> > We have two teams. Database team and a Software engineering team.
The software engineering team wrote an application in .net.
> >
> > We periodically get 'the application is slow' from them. I have not
gotten the ok to run statspack in production.
> >
> > Are there any canned scripts I can run to monitor the v$views or
latch contention etc... It may not be the database, but I need some metrics.
> >
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