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Re: RE: Question on views

From: <rgaffuri_at_cox.net>
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 07:44:31 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.005CA4C3.20030812074431@fatcity.com>


i think its DBA_MVIEWS though I could be wrong. see what is in there. if your view is there then you are using materialized views.
>
> From: "Wolfe Stephen S GS-11 6 MDSS/SGSI" <Stephen.Wolfe_at_macdill.af.mil>
> Date: 2003/08/12 Tue AM 11:24:42 EDT
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> Subject: RE: Question on views
>
> > you mixed a lot of functional information in your question, so
> > its difficult to follow the exact 'oracle' question you are asking.
>
> Sorry, but I'm still learning.
> >
> > if you are using a 'materialized view' you will need to
> > refresh the snapshot? this is used if you have
> > calculations(like sums, etc...) that you want to pre-compute
> > to speed things up and its easy to refresh.
>
> Yes the contractor is using a 'materialized view', I have never heard of
> that kind
> of view, is like a parameterized view with computed columns or what? Is
> the term 'materialized'
> an Oracle specific term?
>
> > see my embedded comments below... and you may want to
> > question the 'consultant' about his level of experience. I've
> > never heard of anyone using the term 'stale'.
> > >
> > > From: "Wolfe Stephen S GS-11 6 MDSS/SGSI"
> > > <Stephen.Wolfe_at_macdill.af.mil>
> > > Date: 2003/08/12 Tue AM 09:39:36 EDT
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > > Subject: Question on views
> > >
> > > I just had a contractor tell me that the problem with my Diabetic
> > > detection and Listing 'feature' in their product
> > (Integrated Clinical
> > > Database, ICDB) is because the
> > > 'view' crafted for that detection is going 'stale'.
> > >
> > << has your logic changed?>>
>
> No, the view should return columns (existing and computed) of static
> data residing across three tables.
>
> >
> > > I admit that most my SQL design experience is in MSSQL's T-SQL
> > > although I'm starting to come up to speed on SQL*Plus, anyway, the
> > > above explanation provided to be from the TriCare guy seems bogus.
> > >
> > > Simply put there are four or five good Lab Chemistry parameters one
> > > could use in a SQL select statement to determine if a patient is
> > > diabetic or a diabetic candidate without having specific ICD9
> > > diagnosis coding that declares the patient diabetic.
> > >
> > > A select statement returns a cursor of data that meets the
> > selection
> > > criteria and on MSSQL is a static snapshot of what is in
> > the database
> > > at the time the query was executed. Thus, if a patient had
> > parameters
> > > that
> >
> > << same thing happens in Oracle. Oracle uses rollbacks to
> > achieve this, SQL Server locks the rows. Has the same effect
> > in answering the question>>
>
> Understood.
>
> > > met diabetic conditions stored in the database over the
> > past year, how
> > > can a view go 'stale'? Is this just a Oracle peculiarity or am I
> > > getting a smoke screen as I suspect?
> > >
> > << In oracle a standard view is a select statement. what is
> > the background of this 'consultant'. Is he a vendor specific
> > guy or is he an oracle guy?
> >
> > what does he mean by 'stale'? Its hard to judge what your
> > asking. There is too much functional information in your
> > question. Since Im not familiar with your system its hard for
> > me to follow.
>
> I have never heard of the term 'stale' either ...
>
> I think they are just trying to buy time to fix the problem and I keep
> bugging them
> with the 'how' type of questions.
>
> Thanks, your response has been helpful.
>
> >
> > > v/r
> > >
> > > Stephen S. Wolfe, GS-11, DAFC
> > > Data Services Manager
> > > stephen.wolfe_at_macdill.af.mil
> > > (813) 827-9974 DSN 651-9974
> > > --
> --
> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net
> --
> Author: Wolfe Stephen S GS-11 6 MDSS/SGSI
> INET: Stephen.Wolfe_at_macdill.af.mil
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