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RE: dba age

From: April Wells <awells_at_csedge.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 12:25:27 -0500
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Dude, I am 37 and the OLDEST Oracle DBA here... only one DBA older in the company!

April Wells
Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA
Corporate Systems
Amarillo Texas

You will recognize your own path when you come upon it, because you will suddenly have all the energy and imagination you will ever need. ~ Jerry Gillies ~

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From: Freeman Robert - IL [mailto:FREEMANR_at_tusc.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 12:35 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: dba age

Well I *AM* 37, and I don't feel old. I'm actually the youngest DBA in my group, and it seems like I'm always the youngest wherever I go...

Robert

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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 7/23/2003 12:14 PM

King Arthur: "Old woman!"
Dennis: "Man."
KA: "Sorry. Old man! Whose castle is that?" D: "I'm 37!"
KA: "What?"
D: "I'm 37, I'm not old!"
KA: "Well, I can't just call you 'man'." D: "Well, you could say 'Dennis'."
KA: "I didn't know you were called Dennis." D: "You never bothered to find out, did you?"

At least I'm "only" on the cusp of 35. And I have 6 years "experience" with
Oracle. I've lost whole databases, even, thanks to WindohsNoT running Oracle7. My experience tells me not to put Oracle on Windohs. YMMV. I've
experienced upgrades, patches, and migrations -- oh my! I've experienced
the joy that isn't OiD 9.0.2. I've experienced a developer who could have
sworn he was in the test DB. I've experienced successful recovery with zero
data loss and no downtime during core business hours. I've experienced AutoRAID. I've experienced BAARF. I've experienced Intel, Alpha, SPARC,
and PA-RISC. Duhvelopers have experienced my wrath. I have experienced my
own wrath during moments of Duh. I've experienced this list, with it's many
helpful and some not so helpful members.

And yet, there's so much I haven't experienced. Like lunch today.

Standing in for Paul Harvey,
I'm Rich Jesse. Good Day!

Rich Jesse                           System/Database Administrator
rjesse_at_qtiworld.com                  Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA

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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 11:55 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Now this one is difficult folks .  

what is average age of an experienced oracle dba ?  

-ak
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Dude, I am 37 and the OLDEST Oracle DBA here... only one=  DBA older in the company!</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>April Wells</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Corporate Systems</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Amarillo Texas</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>You will recognize your own path when you come upon it,=  because you will suddenly have all the energy and imagination you will=  ever need.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>~ Jerry Gillies ~</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Freeman Robert - IL [<A HREF= =3D"mailto:FREEMANR_at_tusc.com">mailto:FREEMANR_at_tusc.com</A>]</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 12:35 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: RE: dba age</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Well I *AM* 37, and I don't feel old. I'm actually the=  youngest DBA in my</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>group, and it seems like I'm always the youngest=  wherever I go...</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Robert</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: 7/23/2003 12:14 PM</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>King Arthur: &quot;Old woman!&quot;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Dennis: &quot;Man.&quot;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>KA: &quot;Sorry. Old man! Whose castle is=
 that?&quot;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>D: &quot;I'm 37!&quot;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>KA: &quot;What?&quot;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>D: &quot;I'm 37, I'm not old!&quot;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>KA: &quot;Well, I can't just call you=  'man'.&quot;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>D: &quot;Well, you could say 'Dennis'.&quot;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>KA: &quot;I didn't know you were called=  Dennis.&quot;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>D: &quot;You never bothered to find out, did=  you?&quot;</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>At least I'm &quot;only&quot; on the cusp of 35.&nbsp;=  And I have 6 years &quot;experience&quot;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>with</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Oracle.&nbsp; I've lost whole databases, even, thanks to=  WindohsNoT running</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Oracle7.&nbsp; My experience tells me not to put Oracle=  on Windohs.&nbsp; YMMV.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>I've</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>experienced upgrades, patches, and migrations -- oh=  my!&nbsp; I've</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>experienced</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>the joy that isn't OiD 9.0.2.&nbsp; I've experienced a=  developer who could</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>have</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>sworn he was in the test DB.&nbsp; I've experienced=  successful recovery with</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>zero</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>data loss and no downtime during core business=  hours.&nbsp; I've experienced</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>AutoRAID.&nbsp; I've experienced BAARF.&nbsp; I've=  experienced Intel, Alpha,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>SPARC,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>and PA-RISC.&nbsp; Duhvelopers have experienced my=  wrath.&nbsp; I have experienced</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>my</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>own wrath during moments of Duh.&nbsp; I've experienced=  this list, with it's</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>many</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>helpful and some not so helpful members.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>And yet, there's so much I haven't experienced.&nbsp;=  Like lunch today.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Standing in for Paul Harvey,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>I'm Rich Jesse.&nbsp; Good Day!</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Rich=
 Jesse&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb= sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;= &nbsp;&nbsp; System/Database Administrator</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=
=3D2>rjesse_at_qtiworld.com&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb= sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex,=  WI USA</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 11:55 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT>
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<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Now this one is difficult folks .</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>what is average age of an experienced oracle dba=  ?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>-ak</FONT>
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=3D"http://www.orafaq.net" TARGET=
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>-- </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Author: Jesse, Rich</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp; INET: Rich.Jesse_at_qtiworld.com</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Author: Freeman Robert - IL</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp; INET: FREEMANR_at_tusc.com</FONT>
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