Message-Id: <25937.338152@fatcity.com> From: Jared.Still@radisys.com Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:47:40 -0700 Subject: Re: RAC or Oracle Fail Safe And to add to that, I don't believe that FailSafe is even required to use Oracle with MS Clusters. IIRC, it's just to simplify the cluster setup. FailSafe certainly isn't need for setting up failover withi Veritas Cluster Server. Jared "Allen R. Lucas" Sent by: ml-errors@fatcity.com 07/16/2003 10:59 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L cc: Subject: Re: RAC or Oracle Fail Safe EE is not required to FailSafe. It comes at no cost with Standard Edition as well. "Tanel Poder" 3@mail.ee> cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: RAC or Oracle Fail Safe ml-errors@fatci ty.com 07/16/2003 12:44 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L Hi! RAC - One database, two (or more) instances servicing it concurrently. If one node crashes, second one starts recovering, your uncommitted transactions and session state variables (package variables) on failed instance are lost. FailSafe - One database, one instance servicing it at any time, in event of failure you can start up instance on another node that will mount, recover and open the database. With RAC you can have some kind of transparent failover which is able to reexecute your queries on survived instance, but AFAIK for uncommitted transaction survivability your app has to be coded to support it. Also, with RAC you may scale your system up to support more users in some cases. RAC is additional $20k per CPU, FailSafe comes with EE, I believe. Tanel. ----- Original Message ----- To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 7:44 PM > Hello all, > > We have setup a Microsoft Cluster Server (MSCS) cluster, with two nodes, using W2K, and now are in the process of deploying Oracle 9i on it. For the purpose of high availability (HA), we are deliberating on setting up either RAC or Oracle Fail Safe. The confusion is over the fact that if we get HA with oracle Fail Safe, i.e. if one node is down due to any problem, then the other takes over, then can we do without RAC? > Which of these two is more transparent to the user, i.e. which will take less time to shift the load from one node (server) to the other node? > Can any one explain the benefits of using RAC over Oracle Fail Safe, or vice versa. > > Regards, > > Hussain > > DBA SKMCH&RC > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Hussain Ahmed Qadri > INET: hussain@skm.org.pk > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: ListGuru@fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tanel Poder INET: tanel.poder.003@mail.ee Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: ListGuru@fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Allen R. Lucas INET: alucas@chicagobridge.com Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: ListGuru@fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L