From Jacques.Kilchoer@quest.com Mon, 07 Jul 2003 16:32:03 -0700 From: "Jacques Kilchoer" Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 16:32:03 -0700 Subject: RE: ER Tools (was: erwin) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I work for quest so obviously my recommendation should be taken with a grain of salt but Qdesigner is available for trial download and the purchase price can be seen online. http://quest.com/qdesigner/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Jesse, Rich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: lundi, 7. juillet 2003 12:29 > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: ER Tools (was: erwin) > > > Anyone care to ballpark a $$$ on the registered version of ERwin? I'm > guessing it's expensive, and Computer ASSociates doesn't > exactly trip my > trigger. > > I'm trying to find a low-cost ER tool in order to get some simple data > modeling done. So far, this is what I've found (VERY briefly): > > 1) Visio. Needs Enterprise edition. The UI is a pain, as far as I'm > concerned. Pain, pain, pain. Cheapest viable option so far > at less than > $500/user. It can be used for more than just data modeling. > > 2) Oracle 9iDS. Hugely bloated. Relies on a 3GB (minimum) > repository for > some stupid reason. Apparently can't buy just Designer, > which is all we > need. Difficult to get started (concepts and management of workspace, > container). Slow on a 2.4Ghz PC w/512MB RAM, although this > may be due to me > having to create the [EMAIL PROTECTED] repository DB on the same PC. Very > comprehensive, though, from what I've seen. Can't access > drawings from the > OS, since they're (probably) in the repository. > > 3) No freeware tools such as dia, VisioModeler (pre-MS > version of Visio), > OpenOffice, or Koffice seemed to be able to draw crow's foot diagrams. > > 4) Sybase PowerBuilder. Didn't check out the download yet, > although a demo > of an older version (v6) seems like it would work. Not impressed with > Sybase in general and it's probably in the $1Ks/user. > > 5) Data Architect from TheKompany.com only does physical > modelling and > their Kivio product doesn't seem to support crow's foot. > > 6) DeZign from datanamic.com. Haven't downloaded the demo > yet, but the > single screenshot looks promising. And at $149/user or > $119/user for 10 > licenses, I'm hoping... > > I've been looking thru past messages found on orafaq.com > (better searching > than fatcity.com) and this is the majority of what I've been > able to find. > Anyone have more to add? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jacques Kilchoer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).