Re: Microsoft VS Oracle (again)

How do you go about finding MS SQL Server on MS Advanced Server?

We have quite few Win2k/NT servers around here: no mention of MS SQL in the register, and it's not on the program menu.

Jared

On Tuesday 01 July 2003 13:10, Goulet, Dick wrote:
> Well, I'll be a little more forgiving than Raj has been. Basically
> MicroSoft is just the "pot calling the kettle black".
>
> On the issue of price, well yes MicroSoft does have an edge, but that's
> just how they've eliminated all of their other competition over the years.
> The product does not cost less than Oracle or DB2, it's just that MicroSoft
> can leverage the tremendous amounts of cash they have to offset the
> giveaway they're into. I believe that was one of the points of the
> Antitrust suit they were embroiled in.
>
> On RAC they really have a long way to go. If you want to do a
> federated database setup like MicroSoft states, just buy standard edition
> Oracle licenses & toss in a pile of database links. Works the same way &
> you don't have to pay extra for it. The whole idea of RAC is that when one
> node dies, for whatever reason, the data that node was hosting is not
> offline till you get it repaired. And actually you really do not need to do
> anything to your application to take advantage of RAC, except adjust your
> error handling to understand that a transaction needed to be resubmitted.
>
> Overall I think MicroSoft's Achilles heel is Windows. Their a one OS
> horse. Oracle is a multi OS horse that runs the same whatever the platform.
> And BTW, Oracle runs RAC on Red Hat without any additional software, never
> mind that it runs on Linux in the first place. Similar things can also be
> said for DB2, Sybase, and Informix. When, if ever, Microsoft has a version
> of Sql*Server that runs as multiple independent processes on Linux then
> I'll give them a second look. As long as their a single multi-threaded
> Windows only process they can stay in Redmond. Also, yes they are the
> "fastest growing" database on the market, take a look at that copy of
> Windows 2000 Advanced Server you've got. There's a copy of Sql*Server 2000
> in there, and you can't uninstall it. Billy G is still up to his old
> tricks. The only solution to MicroSoft is forced divestiture. Too bad
> that judge could not stand up to King George.
>
>
> Dick Goulet
> Senior Oracle DBA
> Oracle Certified 8i DBA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 1:40 PM
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>
>
>
> Aargh ...
>
> you must be very brave telling a Oracle cult to move to SQL Server ...
>
> How do we know you are not Billy G using an alias ...
>
> 8>)
>
> Raj
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 1:00 PM
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>
>
> FYI
>
> One of my friends at Microsoft, (yes I must to
> confess, I have friends at MS) gave me a "present",
> it's a 4 cd's kit called "SQL Server 2000 for the
> Oracle Customer", the kit consist in 4 cd's with
> demos, docs, presentations, videos and a lot of stuff
> showing why sql server is a better option as a DB
> instead oracle, contains price lists, performance
> evaluation and many other "information", maybe you'd
> like to spend some of your time giving Billy a chance
> to defend his product. The 4 cd's are available
> (almost completely) as links in:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/sql/oraclekit
>
> Any comments?
>
> Gabriel

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