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RE: Microsoft VS Oracle (again)

From: Johnston, Tim <TJohnston_at_quallaby.com>
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 13:55:58 -0700
Message-ID: <F001.005BD8C8.20030701134045@fatcity.com>

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yes they are the "fastest growing" database on the market, take a look at that copy of Windows 2000 Advanced Server you've got." <SPAN
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And, I
think all the exchange servers now have Sql*Server as a back end...  Considering they almost own that corner of the market, I bet that adds up to a license or two...
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  size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Goulet, Dick   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 4:11   PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE:   Microsoft VS Oracle (again)
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  size=2>    Well, I'll be a little more forgiving than Raj has   been.  Basically MicroSoft is just the "pot calling the kettle   black". 
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  size=2>    On the issue of price, well yes MicroSoft does have   an edge, but that's just how they've eliminated all of their other competition   over the years.  The product does not cost less than Oracle or DB2, it's   just that MicroSoft can leverage the tremendous amounts of cash they have to   offset the giveaway they're into.  I believe that was one of the points   of the Antitrust suit they were embroiled in. 
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  size=2>    On RAC they really have a long way to   go.  <FONT face=Arial
  color=#0000ff size=2>If you want to do a federated database setup like   MicroSoft states, just buy standard edition Oracle licenses & toss in a   pile of database links.  Works the same way & you don't have to pay   extra for it.  The whole idea of RAC is that when one node dies, for   whatever reason, the data that node was hosting is not offline till you get it   repaired. And actually you really do not need to do anything to your   application to take advantage of RAC, except adjust your error handling to   understand that a transaction needed to be resubmitted.
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  color=#0000ff size=2>Overall I think MicroSoft's Achilles heel is   Windows.  Their a one OS horse. Oracle is a multi OS horse that runs the   same whatever the platform.  And BTW, Oracle runs RAC on Red Hat without   any additional software, never mind that it runs on Linux in the first   place.  Similar things can also be said for DB2, Sybase, and   Informix.  When, if ever, Microsoft has a version of Sql*Server that runs   as multiple independent processes on Linux then I'll give them a second   look.  As long as their a single multi-threaded Windows only process they   can stay in Redmond.  Also, yes they are the "fastest growing" database   on the market, take a look at that copy of Windows 2000 Advanced Server you've   got.  There's a copy of Sql*Server 2000 in there, and you can't uninstall   it.  Billy G is still up to his old tricks.  The only solution to   MicroSoft is forced divestiture.  Too bad that judge could not stand up   to King George.
   
  Dick GouletSenior Oracle DBAOracle Certified 8i DBA   

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  size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Jamadagni, Rajendra   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003   1:40 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject:   RE: Microsoft VS Oracle (again)
  Aargh ...
  you must be very brave telling a Oracle cult to move to SQL   Server ...
  How do we know you are not Billy G using an alias ...   

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  Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com <FONT   size=2>All Views expressed in this email are strictly personal.   QOTD: Any clod can have facts, having an opinion is an art   !
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  Gabriel Aragon [<A
  href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]   Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 1:00 PM <FONT   size=2>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <FONT   size=2>Subject: Microsoft VS Oracle (again)   FYI
  One of my friends at Microsoft, (yes I must to   confess, I have friends at MS) gave me a "present",   it's a 4 cd's kit called "SQL Server 2000 for the   Oracle Customer", the kit consist in 4 cd's with   demos, docs, presentations, videos and a lot of stuff   showing why sql server is a better option as a DB   instead oracle, contains price lists, performance   evaluation and many other "information", maybe you'd   like to spend some of your time giving Billy a chance   to defend his product. The 4 cd's are available   (almost completely) as links in:
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  href="http://www.microsoft.com/sql/oraclekit">http://www.microsoft.com/sql/oraclekit   

  Any comments?
  Gabriel Received on Tue Jul 01 2003 - 15:55:58 CDT

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