From tanel.poder.003@mail.ee Thu, 26 Jun 2003 00:56:36 -0700 From: "Tanel Poder" Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 00:56:36 -0700 Subject: Re: Re: 9i OCP Details Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain IIRC = if I remember correctly. Yes, you have just to sit at these courses. They are not really advanced courses, especially when the instructor doesn't know, what's he talking about. That's why I put advanced in double quotes. If you want real advanced courses, go with Data Server Internals or seminars what Jonathan Lewis or guys at his level provide. Tanel. ----- Original Message ----- To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 6:04 AM > this is a stupid question but what does IIRC mean? not familiar with that > one. > > what do you mean by 'pass' courses. every oracle courses i took you just sit > and listen to the instructor? > > how good are those advanced courses? > ----- Original Message ----- > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 4:27 PM > > > > Hi! > > > > There was about 25 OCMs before I took the exam in Dec 2002. Now there's 50 > > IIRC. > > > > At least then the requirements were: > > Had to be 9i OCP. > > Had to pass 2 "advanced" courses, I took Advanced PL/SQL and RAC. > > Had to pass 2 day practicum. Sh*t, this was hard, but I'm glad about it, > > that shows OCM actually is worth something. > > There is a description in OCM website about the tasks. Anyway, when going, > > refresh your recovery skills ;) > > > > It did cost me about $5000 (from my own pocket). I had to travel to > Chicago > > from other side of the globe, because they didn't take tests in Europe > then > > (it might be the case now as well). If anyone asks was it worth the > money - > > I would have spent the money on other stupidities anyway ;) > > > > Cheers, > > Tanel. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 10:57 PM > > > > > > > to get OCM you need to > > > > > > take 2 advanced classes > > > then pass an all day comprehensive hands on test right? > > > > > > what do they have you do for that test? i heard there are different > OCMs? > > btw, how much does it all cost? > > > > > > > > From: "Tanel Poder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Date: 2003/06/25 Wed PM 02:59:58 EDT > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Subject: Re: 9i OCP Details > > > > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > > > If you're getting this OCP to look more appealing to employers, I'd go > > with > > > > 8i first, then upgrade to 9i. > > > > On resume it looks better, you seem more like old-timer that way ;) > > > > > > > > Tanel. > > > > OCP 8,8i,9i, OCM. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 8:29 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > Senthil > > > > > So, if I understand your question correctly, you are asking > whether > > you > > > > > should: > > > > > 1. Take the 8i exams, then the 9i upgrade exam. > > > > > 2. Take the 9i exams. > > > > > This will depend to some extent on your background, whether you > still > > work > > > > > with 8i. Whether you can get your manager to spring for a class or > > two. > > > > > > > > > > Myself, I started this path over a year ago (slow learner). At > that > > > > time > > > > > since the 9i study materials weren't readily available, and I still > > work > > > > > with 8i a lot, I chose to go the 8i route. > > > > > If I were to start today, I think I would just go the 9i route. I > > > > expect > > > > > soon Oracle will announce that in 6 months the 8i path will be > closed. > > > > This > > > > > has already happened with Oracle 8. > > > > > > > > > > Dennis Williams > > > > > DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA > > > > > Lifetouch, Inc. > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 10:59 AM > > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Group, > > > > > > > > > > I wanted to do my 9i OCP. I have not taken any of the 8i OCP exams. > > > > > To do 9i Exams directly I need to attend module 3 or 4 or New > features > > > > > from any of the Oracle Edu Partners. > > > > > Shall I take 9i New features and go ahead with the 9i exams. > > > > > > > > > > Suggestion are appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Senthil. > > > > > -- > > > > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > > > > -- > > > > > Author: Senthil Kumar D > > > > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > > > > > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting > services > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > > > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > > > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > > > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). 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