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RE: Partition

From: Ishwar Tewari <ishwar_at_ewomp.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 14:05:16 -0700
Message-ID: <F001.005B6D68.20030620134452@fatcity.com>


Jacques, the version is 9.0.1.1.1.
Dennis, Thanks for the confidence I totally agree with you about designing and everything else.
Could there be a temporary solution to get successful exports until we embark on this project.
we are in a 24x 7 environment.

Rgds
Ishwar.

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DENNIS WILLIAMS
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 4:30 PM
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Ishwar

   I am fairly new to partitions myself and must relearn the commands each time I need to work with the partitions. So I will speak more to the philosophy of a DBA that doesn't like to end up in a jam.

   I get a bad feeling about hashing to get around an immediate problem. I also question the value of an export this large. Have you timed the re-import? It might take so long as to not be of practical value.

   My approach in this situation would be to first design how I want my system to be. Lay out the partitions I would like to have, etc. Then create a plan to get to the situation I want. Conduct tests to see what changes can be made in a reasonable time. First create a new partition that will take the newly arriving data so your problem doesn't continue to get worse. Then aim at creating new partitions one at a time that will split the existing too-large partition into smaller partitions in a manageable effort per partition. You may end up creating one each weekend for awhile.

   My theory is being DBA of a really large database is similar to being captain of a supertanker. You can't turn a large ship or a large database quickly. You must anticipate problems a long distance off.

Dennis Williams
DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 2:50 PM
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Hey Dennis:

I created a range partition table with the last high_value being maxvalue. The partition key is partner_id (an incremental sequence). Now pmax (the last partition) has become very big and gives "snapshot too old.." while exporting.

Ultimate Plan



I realize that the ultimate solution will be the split the partition pmax, into enough segments so that
the new pmax has no data. Then at this point I will drop the pmax partition. Therefore when new partners come I will add partitions accordingly.

Maybe



But I was thinking If I can make pmax into a hashed subpartition, it will also distribute the data reasonably.
I dont have to have the segments separated by the partner_id because the data are not evenly distributed to the partners.   partner_id , count(*)
  1             4646545542
  2             11164546466

  ... and so on..

Thanks very much for your help.

Ishwar

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DENNIS WILLIAMS
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 3:10 PM
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Ishwar - What Oracle version. Just off the top of my head, I think that 8i only allows the subpartition to be hashed. What is your goal?

Dennis Williams
DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 12:00 PM
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Hey,

Can anyone say if there is a way to breakup an existing partition into subpartitons. The partition contains data.

Thx
Ishwar.

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