From DGoulet@vicr.com Wed, 18 Jun 2003 09:58:43 -0700 From: "Goulet, Dick" Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 09:58:43 -0700 Subject: RE: MySQL in the future? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Richard, Oh Contrare, if your using MySql for a commercial purpose then you owe MySql AB in Germany $475 US, at last look. Here's from their web site (http://www.mysql.com/products/licensing.html): MySQL Licensing Policy In Brief This is our licensing policy in brief: Our software is 100% GPL, and if yours is also 100% GPL (or OSI compliant), then you never have to pay us for the licences. In all other instances, you are better served by our commercial licence. Read the details below! Licensing MySQL software is licensed under the GPL license. The formal terms of the GPL license can be found in the GNU General Public License section of the MySQL Reference Manual. MySQL is also available under commercial non-GPL license. For pricing and ordering information, see our online store 1. Free use for those who are 100% GPL If your application is licensed under GPL or compatible OSI license approved by MySQL AB, you are free and welcome to ship any GPL software of MySQL AB with your application. By "application" we mean any type of software application, system, tool or utility. For doing this, you do not need a separate signed agreement with MySQL AB, because the GPL text is sufficient. But we do recommend you to be in touch with us as there usually are good opportunities for partnership and co-marketing. 2. Free use for those who never copy, modify or distribute As long as you never distribute (internally or externally) the MySQL Software in any way, you are free to use it for powering your application, irrespective of whether your application is under GPL or other OSI approved license or not. More specifically: Modifying - You are allowed to modify MySQL Software source code any way you like. If you distribute the modified version, all changes, all interface code and all code that connects directly or indirectly to the interface code fall under GPL. Copying - You are allowed to copy MySQL binaries and source code, but when you do so, the copies will fall under the GPL license. 3. Commercial use for everyone else If your application is not licensed under GPL or compatible OSI license approved by MySQL AB and you intend to distribute MySQL software (be that internally or externally), you must first obtain a commercial license to the MySQL software in question. Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 1:20 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Yes, agreed. But out of all the MySql running out there, how many of them do you think people purchased support for? People run MySql just like Apache because it's free. And they get most of the support through internal mailing-list, groups etc. Richard -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 12:55 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Richard, I believe someone else here put the magic phrase on the subject. Support. MySql has a commercial company that you can buy support from, namely MySQL. PostGreSql use to have a vendor who would sell you a support contract, Great Bridge Software. Don't know what happen to them. Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 12:04 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Glad to see another PostGresql like here. I always wonder why is MySql bigger than PostGreSql when it was inferior. My guess is that it was widely used as Web logging, site logging as an alternative to file based logging where people don't care much about transaction 'n such. Richard Ji -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 9:50 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Jesse, In the Open Source world I'm becoming a PostGreSql bigot. While there are a lot of folks out there using MySql I believe they acquired an inferior product. Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -----Original Message----- Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 6:00 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I haven't really used either in-depth, but the features of PostrgeSQL http://advocacy.postgresql.org/advantages/ seem to be a lot closer to "Enterprise" than MySQL 4.x, IMHO. Then again, I'm an Oracle bigot -- for now. :) Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA > -----Original Message----- > From: Ron Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 2:10 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: MySQL in the future? > > > WILL OPEN-SOURCE THREATEN ORACLE, IBM AND MS? | Internet News > How big of a threat are open-source databases to software giants like > Oracle, who hold most of the market and revenue share today? MySQL > could be the biggest challenger to Oracle, and even Microsoft and IBM > in the database market. MySQL is making inroads as a database > alternative for small businesses or departmentally inside larger > enterprises. Ultimately, the groundswell of support for MySQL could > propel it on a Linux-like course to stardom as companies look to > reduce TCO for databases. > > For the full details, click: > http://www.internetnews.com/ent-news/article.php/2221901 > > Interesting article.... Is this the wave of the future for the small > consultant?? > > If the CEO is smart he will start a certification program and release > upgrades every 18 months. 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