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RE: International User Community

From: Richard Ji <>
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 15:19:08 -0700
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interesting.  I will start a virtual campfire.

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  size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Mogens Nørgaard   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 5:15   PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re:   International User CommunityWho knows? I know for at fact   that Oracle UK sold Oracle 5 to Ghadaffi (or however his name is   spelled) back in the 80's. They also had a lively trade with South Africa -   known back then as "South England"... rumor has it, though, that - due to   stuff happening high over Lockerbie - Oracle UK thought they'd better not   invoice the guy in the tent in the desert.So somewhere there might   still be a 5.1.22 running some important Libyan military stuff.Then   there's the story of East Germany and the re-union. When the Wall came   down Oracle West Germany found that a certain East German conglomorate (sp?)   based in Dresden had 30+ Oracle folks working there, supporting 100 or 200   Oracle 5 installations throughout East Germany. Instead of just shooting   everyone in sight, Oracle West Germany hired the 30+ folks, opened an official   office in Dresden, legalized all the installations, upgraded them to version   6, then to version 7 - and then started charging whatever little or much they   could afford. I still admire the guys in Oracle West Germany for that   approach. Way to go.Of course I have also spoken to excellent people   from Oracle Russia who had worked with Oracle version 1 - respect! One of the   things we shouldn't forget is that the Italians sold Oracle 5.1.22 to the   Soviet Union when it was highly illegal to do so. They also sold these   Olivette B?4?-something Unix computers, promised that Oracle version 5 worked   splendidly with the Cyrillic alphabet - and then got the Hell out.   Well, Oracle version 5 hardly worked with any language, but certainly   not with the Cyrillic alphabet. When the Soviets discovered it they couldn't   do anything. They had paid, by the way, in hard currency the excellent price   of $25 or $30 Million, but it was also an illegal deal under the CoCom   agreements, so they couldn't do anything officially about it.Instead,   the Institute for Computer Science at the University of Moscow hacked the code   and actually made it work with the Cyrillic alphabet. No wonder there are many   excellent Russian Oracle people around. Ah, so many good stories to be   told over the campfire and over a bottle or two of   something.MogensSeefelt, Beth wrote:             

    Were'nt US
    companies forbidden to do business with Iraq in 98-99?      
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    href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:     Monday, June 09, 2003 3:10 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list     ORACLE-LSubject: Re: International User     Community
    When I worked for Oracle back in
    1998-99 Oracle had an office in the capitol of Iraq as I recall.

    Ken Janusz, CPIM
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style="BACKGROUND: rgb(228,228,228) 0% 50%; FONT: 10pt arial; font-stretch: normal; font-size-adjust: none">From: Richard Ji
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-stretch: normal; font-size-adjust: none">Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:50 PM
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size=2>I thought Iran registered it first. <FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Gogala, Mladen [<A class=moz-txt-link-freetext href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:35 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: International User Community <SPAN class=250593515-09062003>IOUG? Is that an "Iraqi Oracle User Group"? Boy, thing are developing fast!   Mladen Gogala <FONT face=Arial size=2>Oracle DBA Phone:(203) 459-6855 <A class=moz-txt-link-freetext href="Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----From: April Wells [<A class=moz-txt-link-freetext href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:04 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: International User Community While not trying to sound like this is coming off like a shameless plug, because it isn't... I have an Apps book going to publisher in a couple weeks and they want to do PR.  To that end, they have asked me to fill out a fairly extensive paper on who might ever care about such a book... including International Organizations they might push out PR stuff to. Thanks to Rachel, I got a list of <FONT size=2>IOUG OAUG <FONT size=2>UKOUG EOUG <FONT size=2>APOUG and <FONT size=2>ODTUG Anyone know any others?  This wasn't exaclty the kind of reasearch I was planning on... =) <FONT size=2>. Thanks in advance for any help and... sorry Jared for the questionable content. April The information contained in this communication, including attachments, is strictly
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