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Re: Sizing - RAC, storage subsystem EMC

From: Binley Lim <Binley.Lim_at_xtra.co.nz>
Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 06:42:20 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.0059DC00.20030520064220@fatcity.com>


Why not RAID-5 ?

What one knows about hardware previously may not apply with the latest hardware. Since this sounds like a brand new installation, get the engineers to do both configurations, and test them with a stopwatch. Not only will that compare both configurations, it will also tell you if the throughout you are expecting is feasible within the load-window that you have.

  Regards,    

  Waleed

    Hi all, hope you can give some input ideas.      

    I am in the process of designing a system for a client of ours for a proposal      

    The sizing information I have been given is as follows.      

    58.1 million tickets/day at 351 bytes per record. The record was complete populated (all columns filled to max) in a table and then analyzed. Average row size 351 bytes.

    =~ 19 GB/day. Raw data. Plus overhead (indexes, temp space, rollback, some other data etc) here and there I have requested 5 TB.      

    We need to keep records for a month. Table design I am looking at is a date partition with a second level hash partition. This is so that I can move data in the oldest week/table space off line and write them to optical storage for possible retrieval at a later date (requirement).      

    Of course this will be on locally managed table spaces with auto storage management for segments.      

    Hardware:

    The database will be a Oracle RAC 9.2.0.4 on Sun cluster 3 build on 2 x Sun StarFire V880, 4 CPU's, 4 GB RAM each,

    Connected to an EMC SAN via Fiber Channel      

    I do not have more information about the EMC array at the moment. Hitachi has been mentioned. (excuse the spelling)      

    Question I have.      

    I have been asked how many writes the Database will be doing to the SAN per second.

    I have determined that I should expect about 2000 tickets/second.

    The table in question will have 2 indexes.      

    Now following rough guessing I said I should expect at least 16 000 writes/second      

    This was done by say/assuming      

    2 writes for the redo log files (2 members)

    2 writes for the control files (2 control files)

    2 writes to index blocks

    1 write to undo table space block

    1 write to table block for data

    total 8 blocks written to per ticket.      

    Now I know the above is a real rough. And probably very wrong, if someone can shed some more light on it and give me a more accurate method/guess I would appreciate it.      

    Another question.

    The hardware SAN engineers are telling me they want to configure the SAN in a RAID 5 configuration. I have requested Raid 0 + 1. They say this is going to be to expensive and the new technology allows them to give me the performance I want using RAID 5.      

    I would prefer to err on the side of caution and follow Oracle industry wide recommendation and follow the SAME methodology.

    Comment.      

    Thx.      

    George


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