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From: Jesse, Rich <>
Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 08:01:39 -0800
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It's not so much a devotion to Sun as it is being P.O.'d at Oracle Corp for only supporting paid versions of Oracle, then having the gall to justify migrating to Linux because it's "free".

This has really been hitting home since we've been trying to migrate our OEM and ONames off of a retired VMS server (with my desktop as a backup). If we had only known at the time the Intel hardware was purchased of the problems we'd run into trying to get a recent version of either of these running, we'd have saved ourselves the hassle and went with the Sun boxes.

There's also the issue-of-the-day as to what Linux kernels Oracle will support. We had previously had issues with Oracle Support because we had patched the kernel on RH7.1. What happens now with AS2.1? And who cares what distro you use anyway?!?? It's just the way that things are packaged together and updated that make RH different from Debian, SuSE, Gentoo, etc. If Oracle Corp really wants people to migrate to Linux, they shouldn't care what distro is used. Let them specify major kernel versions (e.g. 2.4) and what lib versions are needed and be done with it. The rest just doesn't matter.

Ahhhhhh... that was refreshing. Just preparing to get outta here for two weeks... :)


Rich Jesse                        System/Database Administrator           Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Post, Ethan []
> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 1:17 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: REDHAT & VLDB
> I am not one to jump on the Linux bandwagon but I wanted to
> get the facts as
> far as any limitations on filesizes, cache etc...on Linux.
> The budget is
> not my budget so I can't answer that, I am just ended up with
> a forwarded
> forwarded forwarded email which had some comments in it that peaked my
> interest.
> So what's with the devotion to Sun? I manage boxes on Sun,
> AIX and HP-UX
> and I currently rank them 1. AIX, 2. SUN, 3. HP-UX. I have
> seen many others
> on this list that at least confirm the dollar for dollar
> performance of spot
> #1.
> - E
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 4:22 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> How do you get a "low cost" VLDB? How L is VL? What's your hardware
> budget? What's going to hit the DB? How often? How many?
> DW/OLTP/Hybrid?
> What's your available planned downtime?
> Without knowing these, I've said before on this list that I'd
> take a strong
> look at the new Sun systems if you're looking for a
> comparison to Linux for
> running Oracle. Supported Solaris for Oracle is free --
> Supported Linux for
> Oracle isn't. And the new Sun hardware starts at $3000 US for a 1Ghz
> SparcIIIi Cu CPU, .5GB RAM, 36GB disk, and FOUR (4!) Gig
> Ethernet cards.
> Head over to:
> Of course, this may not work for you as the V210 has a max of only two
> processors and you'll almost certainly need a SAN for
> storage. You and
> yours will have to decide that.
> Have fun!
> Rich

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