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NO... I have been doing Apps for a year... I am starting to learn. There IS no automatic undo for patching. There are only more and more and more and more and more patches to fix the broken-ness
April Wells
Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA
Corporate Systems
Amarillo Texas
Well-behaved women rarely make history
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Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 3:47 PM
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Then you have to pay more for the "OEM automatic undo" feature.
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Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 2:13 PM
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I can see it now...
"Oracle made a mistake, their patch crashed our server. not my fault."
Patrice.
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Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 4:37 PM
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Maybe, (Hope, Pray) this is all a big hoax. Oracle could announce this feature and use it as a marketing tool toward management, but never really implement it, all the while knowing that there will never be real dba that will even try to turn it on while a wet behind the ears, fresh out of a 5 week crash course in playing dba junior type will never quite figure out what they are doing wrong.
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Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 1:30 PM
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More info on the subject at:
http://www.computerweekly.com/articles/article.asp?liArticleID=121406
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Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA
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Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 2:03 PM
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Actually I think what they showed is really going to be part of OEM4. My understanding is that the 1st release will be out in the coming weeks with a .1 release ( with functionality like a pocketpc version) to be out in q3/4 timeframe. Oracle 10( or whatever its called ) will be unveiled at Oracle(Open)World in September.
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Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 10:27 AM
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doing it right rather than monkeying around with bells and whistles... weird concept.
The kid that demo-ed it would have been more impressive if he had once showed the audience the cool toy, rather than the VP the cool toy.
April Wells
Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA
Corporate Systems
Amarillo Texas
Well-behaved women rarely make history
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Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 11:47 AM
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Sure, the Oracle 'boy' did demo this auto patching stuff and it all looked pretty impressive..... One more check-mark in the list of things the DBAs do today, that can be taken away from them :)
But my little brain kept wondering...... ..... as to why would Oracle come up with this wonderful feature? Why can't they use such brilliant Developers to concentrate on thoroughly testing their code so it does not need a lot of patchwork. Patching should be an exception, not a routine procedure that needs automation !!
BTW.. The new release may not be called 10i, after all.
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Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 9:02 AM
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Did find out that it will automatically download and install all patches and OEM will allow it to be scheduled so that you don't actually have to do anything. I think the boy who demoed that said it was a wonderful new feature.
April Wells
Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA
Corporate Systems
Amarillo Texas
Well-behaved women rarely make history
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Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 8:32 AM
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So, did you get to see Oracle 10 in action at the IOUG?
I wasn't there, but am curious.
Patrice.
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