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RE: DBA's that tune duhveloper's SQL

From: Chris Berry <>
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 18:18:36 -0800
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>Geez - if you didn't find any in the last round and you are going to be
>demanding this time - how will you find anyone ever. I am surely missing
>something. Perhaps the good news is that DBA's who understand these
>concepts will have more job security as they will be required to fix more
>things - not the job security one would wish but ....
>-----Original Message-----
>Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 8:04 PM
>On the contrary.
>The only developers we currently have are for Lotus Notes.
>The last couple rounds of interviews for developers, I have not
>been able to find a single one that knew:
>* who Date or Codd are
>* had heard of the 12 rules that the perfect RDBMS must enforce ( also by
>Codd )
>* bind variables . In defense of a couple of them, they knew the
>Several of them had a hard time with
>* normalization
>* writing simple SQL statements requiring a 2 way join
>When I say simple, I mean that given the definitions of 2 tables
>and a requirement, some could not come up with:
>select, e.dept
>from emp e, dept d
>where e.dept = d.dept
>All were MS weenies.
>Now we get to go through it again.
>I'm going to be more demanding this time.

Perhaps you should consider hiring some that you think are decent coders in general but lack rdbms experience and training them to do things your way.

Chris Berry
Systems Administrator
JM Associates

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