Can you explain exactly HOW I get a different set of developers, short
of quitting my job? And how I ensure that the next set are any better?
Considering the state of the economy in the US right now, that's not
something I'd do lightly.
I simply smile at the developers, say "it's my database, any code that
is placed in it without prior review will be deleted from the
database".
I also repeat, over and over and over until they give in just to make
me stop, that I will be part of all database design meetings because
again, nothing goes into and STAYS in the database unless I've reviewed
it. Think "two year old who has just learned the word NO".
And if that doesn't work, I go out and find a two by four to beat them
senseless.
- Layzee DBA <layzeedba2_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
> Rachel,
>
> All said and done, if the horse (developer) refuses to
> drink (learn), there is nothing you (as a DBA) can do.
> Better get a different (better) horse.
>
> Just my experience.
>
> ===============
> Not so Lazy DBA
> ===============
>
> --- Rachel Carmichael <wisernet100_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
> > gee and my developers think I'm a terrible DBA
> > because I insist on
> > reviewing the SQL going into the database and
> > because I think it's a
> > good idea if the DBA sits in on the design meetings,
> > rather than wait
> > and just accept whatever design they have come up
> > with
> >
> >
> > --- Jacques Kilchoer <Jacques.Kilchoer_at_quest.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Goulet, Dick [mailto:DGoulet_at_vicr.com]
> > > >
> > > > Bashing Duhvelopers is a favorite past time of
> > DBA's
> > > > and I believe for good reason:
> > >
> > > A lot of what you say is true, but what is the
> > view from the other
> > > side of
> > > the fence? e.g. what are the justifiable
> > complaints developers have
> > > with
> > > DBAs?
> > >
> > > I think a few are:
> > > a) Assuming that John Q. Developer knows all the
> > Oracle features and
> > > is
> > > aware of what is poor Oracle coding practice.
> > > b) Not having time for every developer to run up
> > with a question "how
> > > do I
> > > write this SQL statement" but then complaining as
> > soon as it's put in
> > > production.
> > > c) The Duh-BA forces me to separate data in 10
> > different tables even
> > > though
> > > my query would run a lot faster if everything was
> > in one table.
> > > d) When I have to write a program to update all
> > the rows in a table
> > > and ask
> > > "how do I avoid that 'snapshot too old' thing I've
> > been hearing
> > > about?" the
> > > Duh-BA says "maybe you'll get lucky."
> > > e) Calling me a "duh-veloper" behind my back.
> > >
> > > Any others?
> > >
> >
> >
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