"Budweiser Treat"..... Sounds like an oxymoron to me. Give me a nice
Belgium Ale any day.
At 11:13 AM 4/7/03 -0800, you wrote:
>Gotta look where he's from - Heineken is like water to those folks - Bud is
>a treat
>
>Rick
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>Yep, you just gotta wonder why anyone would want to pipe Heineken to Bud,
>though! :)
>
>Pete
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>Bruce Pihlamae, long-term Oracle DBA
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>Well, my kidneys and liver can convert Heineken to water, which is,
>essentially, the same thing as Budweiser. No need to pipe anything. Mere
>mentioning of the word "pipe" in this context can land you in a heap
>of trouble.
>
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>Is it possible to pipe the output of your "Water to Heineken" process to the
>"Heineken to Budweiser" process ?
>
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>Von: Gogala, Mladen [mailto:MGogala_at_oxhp.com]
>Gesendet: Montag, 7. April 2003 17:49
>An: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>Betreff: RE: OT: Technician having to play politics
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>
>The ultimate source of the information about places like that is
>found on http://www.dilbert.com. The species we're talking about
>is called phbus domesticus, PHB for friends. It has an external appearance
>of a human being but uses fuzzy logic incomprehensible to a normal human
>being. Results are usually disatreous and the only recourse one normally has
>is to vote with his feet and run away as soon as he can. Employment ads
>asking for a DBA that knows data modelling, MS SQL Server, oracle, unix, NT,
>has a MSCE and OCP and can turn water into Heineken(TM), all for $70k/year
>are usually a bad sign. I can turn
>Heineken into water, if somebody's interested.
>
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> >
> >Dear Ann (hehe),
> >
> >Previous to this assignment I have been considered
> >to be principled about
> >technology but reasonable and pragmatic. At this
> >assignment I was given a
> >big send up and there were some real insecurities
> >already in-place from
> >people put into high-level IT jobs without any real
> >IT experience. I was
> >told to take a proactive role (at first) and I did
> >but I feel that this has
> >only caused more resentment - plus I am not the
> >best e-mail writer in the
> >universe and e-mail can lead to miscommunications.
> >Now, I look back at the
> >last 3 years and realize that unconsciously people
> >hear me with a certain
> >perspective - miss know-it-all, technical geek -B*.
> > Outside of my job I am
> >considered patient, team-playing, caretaker type.
> >I realize that the one
> >thing I need to do is use this opportunity to hone
> >my personal skills and I
> >am not a person to easily give-up (worked one place
> >for 10 years, married
> >high-school sweetheart, dedicated wife, mother,
> >daughter of elderly
> >parents). However, with a bad start and the last 3
> >years of dodging more
> >personal missiles then I can think of (including
> >being personally insulted
> >in meetings with users - something I would never do
> >to another) I don't know
> >what to do. The IT market is pretty stiff and
> >right now I have 2 small
> >children, a husband and elderly parents relying on
> >me and my income.
> >Sometimes I feel that what I am feeling could be
> >somewhat due to the
> >tightening market and insecure overall economy and
> >the fact that this
> >particular organization has not had a strong CIO
> >for the last 7 years -
> >leading to more emphasis on political positioning
> >(wow - learning much more
> >about politics then I ever wanted to know) and
> >that I am not alone. This
> >environment I have used to temper my standards and
> >responses, got Oracle OCP
> >after holding out for 8 years, heck considering to
> >write a book on the IT
> >government industry - kind of a parody in light of
> >P.J. O'Rourke. Please
> >understand that not everyone in this environment
> >has these issues. In
> >otherwords, I am not Schizophrenic feeling everyone
> >is against me. However,
> >this environment is not balanced and so the
> >moderate, objective voices seem
> >to get lost in the storm. So I am trying to find a
> >way to turn this whole
> >thing around - I believe there is one person
> >especially who is at the heart
> >of this. Others have reported this as so. I do
> >not wish to cause this
> >person any harm. I just want to turn this thing
> >around without having to
> >get another job. I would like to see a win-win.
> >My dream is to work with
> >other technical professionals to development
> >products of lasting quality
> >that really address business needs. I have
> >something significant invested
> >in the users here, the technology, the other
> >technicians and management.
> >Any ideas/advice?
>
>Macchiavelli, "The Prince"
>Sun Tzu, "The Art of War"
>You can also search "36 stratagems" on the internet ...
>
>Regards,
>
>Stephane Faroult
>Oriole
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