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RE: dbshut script - shutdown or shutdown immediate

From: Nelson, Allan <anelson_at_midf.com>
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 08:23:40 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.005796C3.20030403082340@fatcity.com>


Oh, I wan't advocating a kill -9, just comparing it to a shutdown abort. AFAICT (as far as I can tell) there isn't a great deal of difference. I did, once on Oracle 7.3, have to shutdown the db with a shutdown abort and then just could never get it to open again. Could not recover it and eventually had to go to backups to get it back. I was very fortunate that it was a dev instance.

Allan

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Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 10:54 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

I think I would still prefer a shutdown abort over a kill -9. There might
be even a slight level of control and error management in a shutdown abort
but not in a kill -9 nothing and I repeat nothing can avoid a kill -9 and
there is no cleanup by the process that is killed.

Cheers

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"Nelson, Allan" <anelson_at_midf.com>
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Suppose you have a database with a sid of mydb running on unix. Shutdown
abort is like doing the following from the unix command line: ps -ef |
grep mydb | grep -v grep | xargs kill -9.  All the processes that make
up the instance or processes that are connected to that instance are
killed.  The database will require instance recovery on the next start.

Allan

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Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 4:29 PM
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Well... my official oracle instructor in dba larva school said that it's
tantamount to crashing the db--or so I recall anyway.  This isn't so?

Peace,

-Roy

Roy Pardee
Programmer/Analyst
SWFPAC Lockheed Martin IT
Extension 8487

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Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 2:09 PM
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On Wed, 2 Apr 2003, Chris Berry wrote:


> Shutdown abort is pretty drastic, are you sure shutdown immediate
> didn't work?
What is drastic about shutdown abort? Never one to opt out of a shutdown abort thread, -- Jeremiah Wilton http://www.speakeasy.net/~jwilton - Uses shutdown abort exclusively - successful shutdowns/startups: over 10,000 - problems with shutdown abort: 0 - versions used: 7.3.2.3 - 10.0 (yes I have a pre-beta) - still employed! -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jeremiah Wilton INET: jwilton_at_speakeasy.net Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Pardee, Roy E INET: roy.e.pardee_at_lmco.com Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). ________________________________________________________________________ ______ This email is intended solely for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Copying, forwarding or distributing this message by persons or entities other than the addressee is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from any computer. This email may have been monitored for policy compliance. [021216] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Nelson, Allan INET: anelson_at_midf.com Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: INET: Peter.McLarty_at_mincom.com Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Nelson, Allan INET: anelson_at_midf.com Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
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