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RE: Oracle position on hints

From: <Jared.Still_at_radisys.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 13:52:55 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.005654DA.20030310135255@fatcity.com>


>From the performance tuning guide:

The CBO peeks at the values of user-defined bind variables on the first invocation of a cursor. This feature lets the optimizer determine the selectivity of any WHERE clause condition, as well as if literals have been used instead of bind variables. On subsequent invocations of the cursor, no peeking takes place, and the cursor is shared, based on the standard cursor-sharing criteria, even if subsequent invocations use different bind values.

CBO only peeks the bind variable once, so that wouldn't help much for star transforms and histograms.

Jared

"Jesse, Rich" <Rich.Jesse_at_qtiworld.com>
 03/10/2003 01:39 PM  

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        cc:     "'Jared.Still_at_radisys.com'" <Jared.Still_at_radisys.com>
        Subject:        RE: Oracle position on hints


I thought that went out the window with 9i because it can snoop at the bind
variables??

Rich

Rich Jesse                        System/Database Administrator
rich.jesse_at_qtiworld.com           Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA


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Well, I wouldn't say you should *always* use bind variables.

Many situations in a database warehouse preclude that.

Potentially long running queries may need to have literals to help the CBO make the right choice.

Star transforms don't work with bind variables, and histograms can't be used with bind variables.

Jared

"Nicoll, Iain" <IAIN.D.NICOLL_at_saic.com>
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 03/08/2003 06:23 AM
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Given the attitude of most dba's that you should always use bind variables where possible I can't see how you'd cope with skewed data without them. Most developers should know a databases's data better than the optimiser and
certainly when building queries it's always worthwhile seeing where data is
being most effectively filtered.  

There are lots of mature systems out there where the data characteristics are unlikely to change much and for most in-house developers you're never going to have to think about portability but always about performance.  

Iain Nicoll
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Sent: 07 March 2003 16:04
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Hi,  

Does Oracle have an official position on hints ? Will they go away as the optimiser is becoming bettre or they are there to stay ?  

TIA     Stephane Paquette

Administrateur de bases de donnees

Database Administrator

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