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About a month ago there were news they were going to hire 2000 people in
India.
HP has run into a bit of trouble over this, see TheRegister re. that company's customer support problems.
Pat.
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Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 6:09 AM
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I'm not sure about much regarding Oracle's license terms right now, but I have been told (while working in Oracle) that the Apache server that was built into 8.1.6 was purely there because OEM needed it (Morten - is that correct?) and that you were not allowed to use it instead of iAS. However, I cannot possibly see how anyone could come after you for using a feature in the database when no dire warnings have been issued as far as I know. So go for it.
Oracle - according to rumours we heard last Monday - would ax around 30% of the US sales/consulting organisation. Well, they certainly fired a lot of people Friday, but I don't know how many.
There will, by the way, be other events like that in other countries in this quarter. Perhaps even in the UK, where they recently removed 25% of Consulting in one day. Certainly in Denmark.
Mogens
dgoulet_at_vicr.com <mailto:dgoulet_at_vicr.com> wrote:
Morten,
Regrettably my friendly License Management person has apparently left, since
e-mail to his account bounces. But, his previous statement was that if the
installer does NOT give you an option to install or not install a product, then
your free to use it. Given that, I'd say that one is free to use the apache
server that they bundle in 9i since there is no option on installing it, it just
does it. The Context option is a different animal. The Installer may not let
you leave it out, but your not free to use it either since it is listed.
Dick Goulet
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Author: Morten Egan <mailto:meg_at_miracleas.dk> <meg_at_miracleas.dk>
Date: 3/5/2003 12:14 PM
hmmm I remember something about licensing with Oracle HTTP Server. AFAIK
you are NOT allowed to use it for this kind of appl. I think you need to
buy the IAS.
Can anyone remember the specifics around this, or am I way off here?
/morten
Michael Garfield Sorensen wrote:
If you don't plan to have many users, I think you could make do
with the Oracle HTTP Server (Powered by Apache) that comes
bundled with the database from 8.1.6 and onwards. No need
to rewrite any code, as it comes with mod_plsql and the
PL/SQL Web Toolkit.
You could also consider ChangeGroup PL/SQL Server Pages
(see http://www.changegroup.biz/da/cgpsp.psp
<http://www.changegroup.biz/da/cgpsp.psp> ). That would
require a rewrite, but it shouldn't be that hard...
Regards,
Michael Garfield Sorensen, CeDeT
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Sent: 5. marts 2003 16:50
The O'Reilly book Oracle and Open Source says DBPrism is a continuation of /
based on OWSKiller, and is "one of the most astonishing success stories of
Java, Oracle, and open source cooperation." (p.299).
They explain how to install it, how to use it, adapters you can get for it,
including Cocoon (a Java publishing framework).
Pat.
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Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:06 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
We are running 9iAS. If I understand this correctly, 9iAS is simply
Apache with a PL/SQL module from Oracle. Our management would like to save
the Oracle Support dollars for 9iAS, so I am looking into alternatives. We
use the PL/SQL web packages, so my options are limited unless we choose to
rewrite code. My questions are:
through Oracle - or does the combination of the two simply give you 9iAS,
which is an Oracle product?
2) Any comments or experience with DBPrism ( http://www.plenix.com/dbprism/
<http://www.plenix.com/dbprism/> ),
which is the only possible alternative that I have found so far?
I've been trying to read about modowa
( http://www.sharemation.com/~dmcmahon/modowa.htm
<http://www.sharemation.com/~dmcmahon/modowa.htm> ) but the server is down
at
the moment.
Thank you,
Jay
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hmmm I remember something about licensing with Oracle HTTP Server. AFAIK you are NOT allowed to use it for this kind of appl. I think you need to buy the IAS.<br>
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Can anyone remember the specifics around this, or am I way off here?<br>
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/morten<br>
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Michael Garfield Sørensen wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">If you don't plan to have many users, I think you could make do with the Oracle HTTP Server (Powered by Apache) that comes bundled with the database from 8.1.6 and onwards. No need to rewrite any code, as it comes with mod_plsql and the PL/SQL Web Toolkit. You could also consider ChangeGroup PL/SQL Server Pages (see <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href= "http://www.changegroup.biz/da/cgpsp.psp"
<http://www.changegroup.biz/da/cgpsp.psp> >
http://www.changegroup.biz/da/cgp <http://www.changegroup.biz/da/cgp> sp.psp</a>). That would require a rewrite, but it shouldn't be that hard... Regards, Michael Garfield Sørensen, CeDeT ----- Original Message ----- To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href= "mailto:ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com" <mailto:ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com> ><ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com></a> Sent: 5. marts 2003 16:50 </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">The O'Reilly book Oracle and Open Source says DBPrism is a continuation of / based on OWSKiller, and is "one of the most astonishing success stories of Java, Oracle, and open source cooperation." (p.299). They explain how to install it, how to use it, adapters you can get for it, including Cocoon (a Java publishing framework). Pat. -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:06 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L We are running 9iAS. If I understand this correctly, 9iAS is simply Apache with a PL/SQL module from Oracle. Our management would like to save the Oracle Support dollars for 9iAS, so I am looking into alternatives. We use the PL/SQL web packages, so my options are limited unless we choose to rewrite code. My questions are: 1) Is it possible to add the (or "a") PL/SQL module to Apache without going through Oracle - or does the combination of the two simply give you 9iAS, which is an Oracle product? 2) Any comments or experience with DBPrism (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href= "http://www.plenix.com/dbprism/" <http://www.plenix.com/dbprism/> > http://www.plenix.com/dbprism/ <http://www.plenix.com/dbprism/> </a>), which is the only possible alternative that I have found so far? I've been trying to read about modowa (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href= "http://www.sharemation.com/~dmcmahon/modowa.htm"
<http://www.sharemation.com/~dmcmahon/modowa.htm> >
http://www.sharemation.co <http://www.sharemation.co> m/~dmcmahon/modowa.htm</a>) but the server is down at the moment. Thank you, Jay **DISCLAIMER This e-mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail message. The contents do not represent the opinion of D&E except to the extent that it relates to their official business. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: BoivinP_at_mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
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