RE: MS SQL hasn't given up!

www.opensource.org and other sites (The Register) and www.globetechnology.com (Globe & Mail's technology news site) mentioned that MS considers LINUX a threat.

Last week I attended an OS security class where each student had two PCs, one was a Windows2000 machine, one was a LINUX machine. The LINUX machine came with Gnome, which doesn't look all that bad. I would argue that the LINUX GUI needs a bit of streamlining but you can see that it has dramatically improved.

LINUX still has software compatibility problems, the courseware referred to a LINUX configuration program that (for some unknown reason) wouldn't work on our LINUX machines.

The LINUX machines seemed to have older hardware, I have the impression that they were the ones the training center had "replaced and upgraded" to Windows2000, but now had turned around and were using them for teaching OS security on LINUX. Speed was comparable.

The irony is that as LINUX becomes more streamlined, vendors start charging for it... Will there be a meeting in the middle of open source OS and Windows? If Microsoft has to reduce its prices for Windows, how will it maintain its revenue growth?

Advanced LINUX is not free either, I don't know how its price compares with the Windows2000 offering though.

Regards,
Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)

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As long as I'm not replaced by an open source (cheap) DBA ....

Stephane Paquette
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    I don't believe MS will ever give up. Isn't that part of American Capitalism? Your competitor does you one better on some test, therefore you've
got to better them. Give Oracle a couple of weeks and we'll here that one too.

    But seriously, how many of us really care about the TP-C benchmark? It's
great for marketing and the sales droids but how do I relate that to the business needs of where I'm working? Great, we can push the database to 400K+
transactions per second, wow. Now if I could just get those 300 testers on the
floor to take advantage of that when their tests are 5 minutes long!! Somehow
the capabilities of the server/database combination has gotten SOO big that it
can't be filled anymore or so the users think when they release the query from
hell.

    BTW: As I look down the road to the future, I wonder how much of the commercial software industry is going to survive the wave of open source stuff
coming down the pipe? Here I am, today, sitting at a MS Win2K desktop with Oracle running on the database server. A couple of years down the road I can
see a Linux, or some derivative of it, as the desktop and PostgreSql on the database server. Processing data will still have to happen and relational data
will still be around, but will MS and Oracle?? Damn good question I'd have to
say.

/* rant mode off, cool mode on */

Dick Goulet

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Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS <DWILLIAMS_at_LIFETOUCH.COM>
Date:       2/27/2003 11:26 AM

For your amusement, MS thinks they can "now" equal Oracle in performance
(wasn't that what they claimed 3 years ago?).
Anyway, I tend to think of these benchmarks like the NASCAR winners. Yeah I'm going to go by a Chrysler because it won the NASCAR championship.

http://www.entmag.com/news/article.asp?EditorialsID=5707 <http://www.entmag.com/news/article.asp?EditorialsID=5707>

Dennis Williams
DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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