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Re: Programming languages that make DBA's lives easier

From: Jared Still <jkstill_at_cybcon.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 21:53:40 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.00553E5E.20030220215340@fatcity.com>

The Kochan and Wood is indispensible.

Jared

On Tuesday 18 February 2003 15:38, Les Ayudo wrote:
> RE: Programming languages that make DBA's lives easierI have Unix Shell
> Programming revised Edition by Kochan and Wood. Haven't had time to sit
> down and read it but it's supposed to be really good. ----- Original
> Message -----
> From: Nick Wagner
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 3:08 PM
> Subject: RE: Programming languages that make DBA's lives easier
>
>
> If you are just learning Korn Shell programming, I'd recommend
>
> The Korn Shell (3rd edition)
> by Anatole Olczak
>
> it's better than others I have seen, but basic... you won't get deep
> enough to make any huge programs, but it should be enough for you're Oracle
> DBA needs.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Janardhana Babu Donga [mailto:jbdonga_at_ucdavis.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 2:29 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: Programming languages that make DBA's lives easier
>
>
>
> What are the good books you guys recommend for Shell Programming? I have
> old edition of UNIX shells by example (by Ellie Quigley). I need to replace
> this with some good book.
>
> Do I need to learn perl before reading PERL for DBAs? If so, what are the
> good perl books do you guys recommend?
>
> -- Babu
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 1:04 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
>
>
> I thought it might be worthwhile to say WHY I prefer ksh for most
> scripting.
>
> As one writer put it, use a language you know. I've used ksh for years,
> so that is certainly one big factor in preferring it. But, that aside, if
> you use mostly the Bourne Shell syntax and stay away from the some of the
> Korn Shell syntactical candy that doesn't do anything extra, then your
> scripts are very easy to read, and are mostly self-documenting. For me,
> that is a big advantage.
>
> If you use ksh, then you need to become reasonably proficient with a few
> of the more important utilities such as sed and awk/nawk/gawk and become
> familiar with good old regular expressions (wonderful stuff!).
>
> One area where ksh is weak is its inability to set up a two-way socket
> with a child process like sqlplus. Perl can do this (for example, by using
> IPC::Open2). With ksh, you can send to the child, and you can receive from
> the child, but you can't converse with the child. Even with the coprocess
> (which is a pain to use), you still have one-way communication at any given
> time. However, 99% of the time, ksh will work fine. For that other 1%
> (OK, maybe 2%), you either figure out a workable compromise with ksh, or
> you use perl.
>
> If you want some reading material, my recommendation is:
>
> Unix System V: A Practical Guide
> by Mark G. Sobel
>
> (There is also a version for BSD)
>
> This is a outstanding overview of Unix including sh, ksh, and csh
> programming; as well as good introductions to sed, awk, and regular
> expressions. It also has chapters on emacs and vi ("Remember, vi is your
> friend."). Amazon has the 3rd edition listed with a publish date of
> 1995. So there probably is some rather outdated info in the book on stuff
> like gopher, archie, possibly Mosaic (Oh heeeeey, cool!). Just ignore
> this. All the other stuff is still completely relevant and presented in
> what I think is the perfect level of detail -- not too verbose; not too
> terse -- with good examples.
>
> Eventually, to get seriously cooking with sed and awk, you will need to
> get something like the O'Reilly sed and awk book. But, for ksh
> programming: If you work through the Bourne Shell and Korn Shell chapters
> of the Sobel book, it is likely that this book is all you will ever need.
> Another wonderful thing about this book is that it doesn't use the current
> trend of big fonts with big margins and thick paper to create a monster
> sized book. Instead, you get lots of information in a book that takes up
> little shelf space. --
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