Re: Teradata baned from IOUG???

Then why this feeling (in other countries, too) that IOUG should be called TOUG instead? Funny how certain presentations with the word "ratio" and something negative in their heading don't make it through the selection process, while presentations with the word "ratio" and something positive make it through. Funny how an abstract like the following nonsense makes it through the process. Just downright funny, strange and not very convincing... who in their right mind said this was a professional presentation that would be of interest to any serious optimiser guy or girl? Somebody must have said Aye to this. Are you ready? Here we go:

"Lately, there has been a big push to ignore your hit ratio with claims that it is meaningless. This shallow minded view (usually by people who sell a tuning tool) ignores why people look at hit ratios and what they are looking for. This quick tip talk will show you what to look for and why. You will definitely know when, where & why to look at your hit ratio in the future.
Show you why your hit ratio matters. How to analyze the hit ratio. Fallacies by those who want to sell you products and tools instead. "

Henry Poras wrote:

> Neither is David Teplow (former president of NOUG)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: root_at_fatcity.com [mailto:root_at_fatcity.com]On Behalf Of
> Daniel W. Fink
> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 1:59 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: Re: Teradata baned from IOUG???
>
> I know Stan Yellott is not a TUSC employee. He is the President of
> RMOUG and a great guy who has worked behind the scenes at many
> IOUG conferences. He is a tremendous calming influence (as many of
> us recall from San Diego).
>
> I don't think Ian, Mark, Bill, Stephen or Steve are TUSC
> Employees, unless they have changed jobs recently.
>
> Henry Poras wrote:
>
>>Anyone know if any of the 10 people running for the Board of Directors for
>>IOUG is a TUSC employee? Noone claims it in their statements.
>>
>>Henry
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 12:24 PM
>>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>>
>>
>>me too...
>>
>>Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
>>ineyman_at_perceptron.com
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
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>>Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 11:11 AM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>evidently i'm not the only one who thinks that, interesting.
>>>
>>>joe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>It seems to me that IOUG has become a wholly owned
>>>>subsidiary of TUSC. TUSC in turn has an incestuous
>>>>relationship with Oracle. All very cozy.
>>>>
>>>>No real complaint about the arrangements. Someone has
>>>>to step up to the plate if IOUG is going to continue
>>>>to be a viable organization and in this economic
>>>>climate few can afford to do it.
>>>>
>>>>Should IOUG be able to survive without Oracle?
>>>>Probably. Will it be able to survive without Oracle?
>>>>I doubt it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--- Jonathan Lewis <jonathan_at_jlcomp.demon.co.uk>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>It should be possible for the IOUG to live without
>>>>>Oracle's support. Obviously it would be better
>>>>>for all concerned if there is some measure of
>>>>>co-operation, and there's clearly no need for
>>>>>bloody-minded conflict. But if the IOUG just
>>>>>keeps doing things that the users want, then
>>>>>the users should be able to support it in the
>>>>>complete absence of any input from Oracle.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards
>>>>>
>>>>>Jonathan Lewis
>>>>>http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk
>>>>>
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>>>>>The Co-operative Oracle Users' FAQ
>>>>>http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/faq/ind_faq.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>MacGregor, Ian A. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>The IOUG cannot live without Oracle's support, but
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>Oracle can survive
>>>>>without the IOUG.
>>>>>
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