RE: Teradata baned from IOUG???

It would be great to find out what Oracle DOES do for IOUG... and other OUGs for that matter. I can't get them to even tell people about TSOUG... let alone actually GIVE us anything (meeting room, or anything else). Most of the time I can't get OUR sales rep to get back to me to tell me if he is still telling his contacts in the area that we even exist!  

April Wells
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Well said. It becomes a problem when TUSC aka IOUG starts censoring papers and vendors for OW and IOUG-A on the grounds that it doesn't conform with the slick TUSC messages (right or wrong as they were).

Just out of curiosity: What is it that Oracle provides that IOUG can't live without? In Denmark (which is about the size of Ada, Oklahoma :) ) we are grateful for being able to borrow a meeting room at the Oracle building for our events, but we could just as easily get a room somewhere else. That's about it. So we get by fine.

Mogens

Peter Barnett wrote:

It seems to me that IOUG has become a wholly owned

subsidiary of TUSC. TUSC in turn has an incestuous

relationship with Oracle. All very cozy.

No real complaint about the arrangements. Someone has

to step up to the plate if IOUG is going to continue

to be a viable organization and in this economic

climate few can afford to do it.

Should IOUG be able to survive without Oracle?

Probably. Will it be able to survive without Oracle?

I doubt it.

• Jonathan Lewis <mailto:jonathan_at_jlcomp.demon.co.uk> <jonathan_at_jlcomp.demon.co.uk>

wrote:   

It should be possible for the IOUG to live without

Oracle's support. Obviously it would be better

for all concerned if there is some measure of

co-operation, and there's clearly no need for

bloody-minded conflict. But if the IOUG just

keeps doing things that the users want, then

the users should be able to support it in the

complete absence of any input from Oracle.

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The IOUG cannot live without Oracle's support, but       

Oracle can survive

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