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Re: Optimizer help, get query to run as good as with RULE hint

From: Jonathan Lewis <jonathan_at_jlcomp.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 15:23:37 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.0054EF87.20030216152337@fatcity.com>

Absolutely identical plans, and traces - the only change was that the cost of the sort step went up. This was testing on a very simple plan too, trying to trade between

    sort (order by)
and an index driven order by - so nothing as complex as messing with a merge join.

If you're interested in the specific example, I'll post you the script offline to recreate the test case: I'll have to pull it from a different machine, though, which is why I can't post it right now.

BTW - I still believe quite firmly that hints are never ignored. They may be syntactically incorrect, there may be bugs, they may never become relevant; but I don't think they are ignored. However, I will agree that there are more and more grey areas in 9.2 where the increased scope for (internal) query rewrites is so extensive that it is becoming a lot harder to decide why a hint appears to have been ignored.

Regards

Jonathan Lewis
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-----Original Message-----
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com> Date: 16 February 2003 23:07
hint

>Did the increase in SORT_AREA_SIZE change the execution plan,
regardless of
>the use of hints (since certain hints can easily be ignored)? Larger
>SORT_AREA_SIZE might encourage the CBO to choose a SORT-MERGE join,
for
>example...
>

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