Re: Oracle License for Training

I always wake up when somebody uses the words "every effort". Probably because English is not my first language. Maybe not.

I'm not sure what legitimate education institutions are with respect to Oracle education :). I've seen Oracle taught at universities, and it's not necessarily as impressive as Oracle taught by an experienced consultant in a small outfit somewhere :).

But who cares? The point is (in my opinion) that that sort of Academic Initiative is done by all major vendors, including Microsoft and Oracle, but that Microsoft has a much, much better model for letting partners make money on training than Oracle has. The market, being rather effecient with the economic stuff in the longer term, reacts accordingly, and that will hurt Oracle in the years to come.

We all want Oracle to succeed. We all want many new DBA's and developers out there. But currently they're being trained on mySQL and SQL Server. Try to guess what that means for the future of databases.

Mogens

Ora NT DBA wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> This conversation didn't start out in dealing with educational
> institutions, it
> started out as a group that wants to use it to make money.
>
> Oracle is making every effort to work with legitimate education
> institutions. The
> Oracle Academic Initiative does exactly what you describe.
> Institutions pay a
> small fee (500.00 I think) they are have access to ALL Oracle Software
> for use in
> instruction. They also have access to Oracle University Curriculum if
> desired.
>
> more information can be found at:
> http://oai.oracle.com
>
> Regards,
> John
>
> ltiu_at_alumni.sfu.ca wrote:
>
>>Quoting DENNIS WILLIAMS <DWILLIAMS_at_LIFETOUCH.COM>:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Richard - How do you think the Oracle Education division would
>>>react to this
>>>proposal? ;-)
>>> Never underestimate the power of corporate politics. But
>>>seriously a
>>>large organization succeeds to the extent that it can look at the
>>>long-term
>>>good of the organization. Overall I think Oracle Corp. has a pretty
>>>good
>>>track record in this respect, and that has contributed to its
>>>excellent
>>>growth. Who knows, maybe Oracle will consider your idea. It seems
>>>that
>>>Microsoft has a different business model for education. I don't
>>>think
>>>Microsoft teaches any classes directly, but just certifies
>>>training
>>>organizations and instructors.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>The point here is to allow people easier access to Oracle knowledge,
>>through courses you can pick up at your local community college.
>>
>>What Oracle is doing right now is stifling this.
>>
>>
>>
>

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