Re: dump.sql

There has been a fair amount of discussion about it - on this list, on other lists, in SELECT magazine, etc. Jared has a perfect right to be annoyed that use has been taken but attribution was not given. I post a bunch of things on my website and that's all I ask, explicitly, at the top of the page.

To be honest, I suspect that what has happened is that the matter has come to the attention of the folks who manage MetaLink content. They likely queried the lawyers at Oracle about what to do, getting the response, "No way! Do not allow an individual's name to remain on anything in the MetaLink Knowledge Base for any reason". And, "By the way, do not even communicate with the individual as that might provide basis for some sort of claim or lien"...

...or some kind of surreal legalistic garbage like that...

Just my guesses, but that's probably what happens when the worlds of "share-ware" and "capitalized intellectual property" collide. In one world, it's about bad manners and grounds for serious disrespect. In the other world, it's about limiting liability, potential litigation, and "no blood, no foul; get up off the floor and keep playing"...

• Original Message ----- To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 10:19 AM

> Tim,
>
> Besides it is available on Metalink, accessable to those users who are
> holding valid support licence and Jared is just pointing to that
direction.
> There is nothing wrong in it as far as copyright is concerned. There is no
> theft involved of any sort as Jared did not claim ownership of that script
> either....
>
> Regards
> Rafiq
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 20:33:55 -0800
>
> This has nothing to do with copyrights, patents, reputation, or IP. It's
a
> script. It was posted on the internet. Nothing more than a case of bad
> manners.
>
> There is no disservice in not tilting at this particular windmill. You
owe
> Jared an apology.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 12:38 PM
>
>
> > Hi Jared,
> > I think a letter to the Redwood Shores police
> > department alleging IP theft and asking them to investigate
> > may be effective.
> >
> > I believe copyright in it's current business model is dead
> > but since everyone's reputation is based on their copyrights
> > you can not allow this theft to continue.
> >
> > If you do you are doing a disservice to everyone.
> >
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > Jared wrote ...
> > >
> > > It may also be found at:
> > >
>

http://metalink.oracle.com/metalink/plsql/ml2_documents.showDocument?p_datab
> ase_id=NOT&p_id=1050919.6
> > >
> > > Yes, it's back, still without credit.
> > >
> > > Please, no 'piracy' emails to Oracle about it.
> > >
> > > Jared
> >
> > --
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