RE: [new info] Redhat Advanced Server Dev Edition - RAC

Welcome to Corporate America, where damagers who have never written a code in the last decade (if ever) and have been promoted beyond their competence level make decisions about what is best for their systems and applications. DBA's and the like are little peeon grunts that do the work. Who cares what they have to say or what they need to do their jobs.

A quote from one of the marketing VP's here from his meeting with a consulting company who was doing a crap job maintaining a "data warehouse" for them, after he made the decision to sign the contract for another three years and several million dollars: "That was a nice lunch, wasn't it?"

How I miss working for a software company.

That is all.

Lisa Koivu
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I'm with Mike on this one, except I was just told earlier this morning that the current client I'm at wants to move the 11i apps to RAC. DO they need it, nope, do they want it, yep(and have basically already cut the check for the cost of RAC(since its on sale till end of month) :)

So the experiment that I'll be starting next week will probably become a reality in the next 60 days. :)

joe

> I don't know anyone who needs it but Oracle is behind it and that
means that
> sooner or later they'll start to shift licenses. I'd be foolish to ignore
> the chance to experiment with RAC at home for £150 (I had a lot of the kit
> already) rather than pay Oracle £1158 for a 3 day RAC course (plus the
loss
> of 3 days income).
> Add on to that the amount I've learned about the linux kernel and the fact
> that frankly a firewire disk is just generally useful to have around
> (backups/temporary storage for video or music) and I think I'd be a mug to
> do otherwise.
>
> So no, I don't work for a company that needs this but in the near future I
> may.
>
> Cheers,
> Mike
>
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> Sent: 11 February 2003 16:30
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>
>
>
> This is all cool technology, and fun stuff to play with.
>
> It all begs the questions,
>
> "How many of us work for a business that actually need this?"
>
> "Are they willing to pay $400/user $20k/CPU above the cost
> of Oracle 9i EE to use it?"
>
> "Are they willing to pay the extra overhead required to maintain it?"
>
> I'm not sure the ROI is there for many of us. Though downtime
> at our business is somewhat expensive, I think that a failover
> system or even standby database will provide adequate coverage
> for us, which is indeed a hot topic here right now, after our Dell
> SAN put us out of business for 36 hours.
>
> RAC wouldn't have helped much there. Niether would a cluster
> for that matter. Standby DB would have been perfect.
>
> This whole push of RAC by Oracle reminds me very much of the
> mlife phone campaign by ATT. Do you really need to take pictures
> with your phone? And what is the point of sending text messages
> to someone elses phone when you could just call them?
>
> ATT needs you to buy this stuff, because they have it for sale.
>
> I see RAC in a similar light. Do you need RAC? Oracle needs
> you to 'need' it, because they need some reason for you to
> spend more money on their product.
>
> Jared
>
>
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