RE: Oracle License for Training

Jeremy - I should probably have been more specific. :-) Years ago I worked for a software vendor. They wanted to port their product to Oracle. They expected to receive complimentary licenses in order to do this. Most vendors bend over backwards to have you port to their product. Oracle expected that they would buy licenses just like everybody else. We developers sort of ended up in the middle, since Oracle Support didn't consider us to exist and wouldn't allow us to file TARs. Again, this was one experience, and someone else might have had a different experience.

Dennis Williams
DBA, 40%OCP
Lifetouch, Inc.
dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com

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> From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [ mailto:DWILLIAMS_at_LIFETOUCH.COM
<mailto:DWILLIAMS_at_LIFETOUCH.COM> ]
>
>
> Maria - Actually, I would think the best time to contact
> Oracle sales is when you don't have money. Good sales people
> can smell money. ;-)

Heh.

> Some software companies are very liberal about providing
> their product for development and training purposes. My
> impression has been that Oracle is NOT one of those
> companies.

Um, no.

For development they can't be beat; the only thing I miss out on is Metalink, but my clients usually provide a (legal) access path for that. OTN is fantastic for developers.

However, for training this statement is true. I ran into this in a big way when working for a smallish SW company. We developed a slick method of rolling out the product to a large-scale enterprise, partially using some proprietary Oracle objects (sequences, PL/SQL, etc). Oracle had no problem with this. The problem occurred, however, when we wanted to hold private classes to train our consultants and implementation partners on this method. We ended up having to buy licenses, and eventually moving the tool to a non-platform specific means.

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