RE: Orawomen

I'm curious. Does everyone here think the IT profession is hard? Does everyone think that being a DBA is harder than say, a teacher, or a sales clerk, or something else?

I don't understand the attitude. Or maybe I'm just lucky. The IT field is wide-open for everyobe to find a niche where they are comfortable.

And it is certainly a better field than nursing (hours, pay and exposure to multyitude of diseases suck!), teaching (while working with most kids would be fun, the pay is tough and the hard-luck kids are tougher), retail (wanna work in Home-Depot?).

While some damagement is tough to work with, I think the field is interested, challenging and always interesting. And the pay is better than most.

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional

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Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 12:27 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

I can relate to this. I have two sons and both have told me that based on what
my work life seems like they would never pursue an IT career. Things could change over time, of course, as the reality of making a living sets in. My undergraduate and graduate degrees have absolutely nothing to do with computers or anything remotely technical and yet here I am with decades of "computer work" experience.

And, by the way, even as a male I was never encouraged in High School to pursue
a profession. So far as I can tell they didn't see much potential in me. It
irks my English teacher wife no end that I earn almost twice what she does...and she was the one with exceptional grades and lots of encouragement.
Not bragging. I think she's worth a lot more than what she's paid.

Kip

|Just asking .. I'm told that the number of "Americans" (by which I mean
kids
|born in the States) entering technical fields of all types is declining.
|Could the decline of the number of women in IT entering IT be a part of
that
|trend?

|For that matter, I wasn't really called on much in school (and glad for it,
|I wasn't usually paying attention), nor did my teachers encourage me that I
|can recall for anything in particular. Yet, here I am, earning a living
|doing computer stuff.

|If 'girls' (or boys, see para 1) aren't encouraged in technical matters,
|perhaps it's a problem beyond the scope of an overworked and underpaid
|teachers? Please note, I speak as a father of six and the husband of an
|(former) educator.

|~brian

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|Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 7:39 AM
|To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

|I think that within the population of women in IT, the number of female
|Oracle DBAs is increasing. However, in general, the number of women
|entering IT is decreasing. That is, the number of women who are
|encouraged to become DBAs or developers or network admins or sys admins
|is decreasing.

|I've noticed (I have a friend with a 13 year old son and a 16 year old
|daughter) that the schools are not encouraging girls to go into science
|or math. There have been studies done that show that teachers in those
|fields tend to call on the girls in the class less and spend less time
|helping them understand the subjects.

|My opinion only

|Rachel

|--- DENNIS WILLIAMS <DWILLIAMS_at_LIFETOUCH.COM> wrote:
|> Recently this list had a discussion of female Oracle DBAs. The
|> consensus was
|> that the numbers were increasing, which I view as a good thing. Here
|> is an
|> article with industry statistics saying that the number of women in
|> IT is
|> decreasing.
|> http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/career/article.php/1564501
|> Any theories?
|>
|> Dennis Williams
|> DBA, 40%OCP
|> Lifetouch, Inc.
|> dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com
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