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RE: Orawomen

From: April Wells <awells_at_csedge.com>
Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 07:14:43 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.00529FC9.20030108071443@fatcity.com>

Having taught IT classes (and taken some lately) at college level... it amazed me that, in a class of 20 undergrad students, only one was female (that was in a Database class as well as in one on C programming). I noticed that we were definite minority in 94 when I was working for my BS at Pitt... but seeing LESS girls now than there were then really surprised me.  

April Wells
Oracle DBA
Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds
-- Albert Einstein

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Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 8:34 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Well, it's been a while since I was in college (1999) but I always felt singled out in a class. Some teachers, that were as old as the hills, truly felt that women should not be in science and did not hesitate to say so. Other teachers could not keep their eyes off my legs - I had to leave work and go directly to school for years. Never mind complaining, the department didn't care. There was only one woman professor, but she taught advanced AI. I never got to take any of her classes. I never saw a female physics or math professor at the university.

I had one (male) algebra teacher tell me that "maybe you just shouldn't study math." However it was a female teacher at a community college that finally got me through 3 quarters calculus. To this day I credit her with making me feel that I was capable of understanding higher math and pushing me and the whole class to do so.

I didn't finish my bachelor's, I didn't need to and I didn't need the stress. But I can see how the declining IT market (no 22-year-old CIOs anymore) paired with this kind of treatment in school would push a detail-oriented young woman to study something else.

Personally I wish I would have become a nurse.

Just my 2 cents, for whatever it's worth.

Lisa Koivu
Oracle No-degree Administrator
Fairfield Resorts, Inc.
5259 Coconut Creek Parkway
Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA 33063

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Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 6:11 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Recently this list had a discussion of female Oracle DBAs. The consensus was

that the numbers were increasing, which I view as a good thing. Here is an article with industry statistics saying that the number of women in IT is decreasing. http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/career/article.php/1564501 <http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/career/article.php/1564501> Any theories?

Dennis Williams
DBA, 40%OCP
Lifetouch, Inc.
dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com
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