where were you when I needed you? You left NY is where.
We have been using data modelers here. Of course, we've gone through 3
completely different versions of the model, from a generic one to a
hybrid to a relational one.
I think we're done for the moment. :)
Rachel
- Martin Bonner <dba_marty_at_darkora.net> wrote:
> I'm a data modeler at heart... that's about 90% of what the military
> used
> me for. Unfortunately, it seems that, at least in this area, when the
>
> economy turns sour, the designers are the first to go.
>
> In my last interview, I was told that they didn't really have enough
> work
> for a full time DBA yet, so the position would also likely be used as
> a
> sysad, a network engineer, a junior programmer, etc... I suppose
> data
> modelers are dead for the moment. Please contradict me. Please....
>
> Marty
>
> At 02:19 PM 11/26/2002 -0800, you wrote:
> >Personally, I like Data Architecture.
> >
> >And data modeling. I never could get enough
> >of that. The hard part is explaining to people that
> >don't quite understand the concept.
> >
> >Dave Hay rules!
> >http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0932633293
> >
> >Being the sole DBA for the company, I don't get
> >nearly enough opportunities for this anymore, and
> >don't have the time for much of it anyway.
> >
> >Jared
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >dgoulet_at_vicr.com
> >Sent by: root_at_fatcity.com
> > 11/26/2002 10:04 AM
> > Please respond to ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > cc:
> > Subject: Re:The future DBAs?
> >
> >
> >Well, I give MicroSlop pretty poor grades for predicting the future
> and
> >Monster.com is absolutely useless (naw make that less than) at job
> stuff
> >in
> >general. I will agree with the person who wrote the article on one
> point.
> > The
> >job of being a DBA is changing and we all need to remain flexible to
> >remain
> >useful in the marketplace. That in some cases means spreading our
> wings
> >from
> >the historical role of DBA. We may need to become part time (or
> full
> >time) data
> >architects, reporting tool experts, etc... But in the end, I don't
> see us
> >degrading to the level of an order entry clerk nor order entry
> clerks
> >upgrading
> >to DBA's. As usual the MicroSlop propaganda machine is at work
> again.
> >
> >Dick Goulet
> >
> >____________________Reply Separator____________________
> >Author: "Arup Nanda" <arupnanda_at_hotmail.com>
> >Date: 11/25/2002 5:48 PM
> >
> >Fellow DBAs and other DBA wannabes,
> >
> >Ever wondered the best path into a DBA career? Microsoft offers a
> >brilliant
> >way. MSN Careers at
> http://editorial.careers.msn.com/articles/nofuture/
> >suggests some jobs are effectively dead, like farmers and sewing
> machine
> >operators and how the experts in that field can progress to the next
> >logical
> >career move. Guess which profession's logical career move is
> database
> >administrator? See the excerpt from the webpage here in the
> attachment as
> >a
> >picture.
> >
> >I just couldn't resist posting it here. May be they are referring to
> SQL
> >Server DBAs?
> >
> >Arup Nanda
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Marty
> "All of life's big problems include the words 'indictment' or
> 'inoperable.'
> Everything else is small stuff." -
> -Alton Brown, host, 'Good Eats'
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